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The New York Times recently chose to work with a climate modification denier, he just published his initial column as well as their viewers are EXTREMELY miserable. John Iadarola, Michael Shure and Mark Thompson, the host of The Young Turks, break it down. Inform us exactly what you assume in the comment area below.

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" Previously this month, the New york city Times worked with traditional Bret Stephens, longtime writer for the Wall Street Journal, to join its editorial page.

It actually shouldn't have.

For one point, though the paper defends the hire in the name of point of view variety, Stephens is a really acquainted kind of facility traditional– a cosmopolitan, well-read, reflexively pro-Israel war hawk (who when composed a column on "the condition of the Arab mind") that believes anti-racists are the real racists yet moderates on pick issues to show his independence.

It is challenging to envision a point of view extra over-represented in DC political circles, at least relative to its representation in the actual conservative motion. In regards to intellectual contribution, his primary credential appears to be that he has actually opposed Donald Trump."

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  1. Posted by rouge1ful, at Reply

    why are there STILL people who deny climate change? 97% of the WORLDS scientist agree its real and human activity is a large part of the accelerated causes of it. the 3% that deny it are the ones on the payroll of some type of coal, oil or some type of energy company that uses non-renewable resources. 97% of the worlds scientists have NOTHING to gain by saying climate change is real and we need to take more aggressive steps in slowing it down and eventually stopping it

    • Posted by Listenbuddy1, at Reply

      +rouge1ful There are people who study their butt in the mirror for 40 years too, “moron”.

    • Posted by whyamimrpink78, at Reply

      rouge1ful, that 97% has been debunked long ago. Read the book “Why Scientists Disagree About Global Warming”.

      Next, nothing in science is ever determine by consensus. If so than we will all be saying the earth is flat as that was the consensus. Quantum theory would not exist as the consensus was Newtonian mechanics.

      The reality is this. Climate change is real, but the issues are

      1. How much is man playing a role?

      2. Is it even bad?

      The vast majority of scientists do not take a stance on either one of those points.

    • Posted by JoshⓋ, at Reply

      Finally, someone with a brain in the argument. People are such sheep and think that if you doubt climate change is destroying the world that you’re for pollution and widespread fracking.

    • Posted by Listenbuddy1, at Reply

      Many climate “scientists” believe a mini-ice age is coming so trying to limit warming could be harmful. 😜

  2. Posted by Thelogicalape, at Reply

    Watch Dave Rubin invite this guy on his show and not challenge him..

    • Posted by Lefebvre Julien, at Reply

      Rubin actually believes in man made climate change and invited a scientist on his show to talk about it.

    • Posted by Deathmachine513, at Reply

      +Thelogicalape I know you’re only here to attack Rubin, but let me clarify this one thing for others. His show is not about pwning the person he’s interviewing, it is about exploring their ideas and why they think the way they do. The goal is not to challenge the person, that is simply not what the show is about.

    • Posted by Highland Chicken, at Reply

      It’s funny because he genuinely did invite him.

  3. Posted by Timothy McCaskey, at Reply

    Climate Agnostic or Reality Agnostic?

  4. Posted by Bat Shit Crazy, at Reply

    The thing these people need to realize is that if you wanna refute a scientific claim you need to do so with verifiable facts.

    • Posted by Rick Kangas, at Reply

      What! You can’t use your own facts or alternative facts?

    • Posted by Blair Schirmerx, at Reply

      The New York Times hasn’t had an actual lefty on its op-ed page in DECADES.

       I’d have to do some digging to find out who the last one was.

    • Posted by atheist zealot, at Reply

      Its not like the New York Times use verifiable facts for any of their articles. Look at their sources… all unnamed or “insider”. They’re conspiracy nutheads. Its just that this one doesn’t fit with the ideologies…

  5. Posted by Jackson Winkelson, at Reply

    Climate change denial proves to me humanity will never work. Even when the right answer is beating us over the head, we still say no.

    • Posted by Trollop 7, at Reply

      Joe Smith
      Because the carbon footprint of a medium-sized dog is the same as that of an SUV. So imagine the size of yours. Now imagine it gone.
      Thanks, bye!

    • Posted by Listenbuddy1, at Reply

      If you believe someone calling themselves a “scientist” can predict the climate 30 years out with all the variables involved you’re not only very “naive”, you’re very gullible. Unfortunately many people are that gullible, creating a harmful, even dangerous situation.

    • Posted by Jackson Winkelson, at Reply

      +Listenbuddy1 I guess you don’t know what math calculations are.

    • Posted by Jason R, at Reply

      +Jackson Winkelson
      Is that what they do when they predict the weather? Or maybe meteorologists can’t add.

    • Posted by whyamimrpink78, at Reply

      Climate change deniers exist because of the radicals on the left that created this fear mongering propaganda about climate change. We can progress if we had a moderate approach about this. But when you exaggerate an issue you create an opposite reaction, in this case the climate change deniers.

      People like TYT (who BTW none of them study science) created climate change deniers.

  6. Posted by matt berl, at Reply

    universe revolves around the earth, astronomer 1, church 0
    earth is flat, explorers 1, leaders 0
    smoking is healthy for you, scientist 1, Big Tobacco 0

    Is this our event in world history where the future laughs at stupid ancestors either in a classroom or inside a bunker?

    • Posted by orochimarujes, at Reply

      What “leaders” thought the earth was flat?

    • Posted by matt berl, at Reply

      Well, it was a general term right? One can guess they did know Earth was round, but wanted to protect precious trade routes. A new route (across an ocean) can destroy economies. So “leadership” can be the merchant guilds and the lords/kings who governed-supported them right?

  7. Posted by merrinatrix, at Reply

    Even if it is only a possibility that humans are causing or contributing to climate change, why does that mean we shouldn’t try to do anything about it? Human behaviour is the only thing we can actually do anything to change. Any percent chance that we can prevent climate change I think we should take it. Elon Musk is going to create a hell of a lot of jobs pursuing solar energy, and other green technologies. I’d rather work above ground in a solar power cell factory than underground in a coal mine.

    • Posted by Kadim Nana, at Reply

      yeah but the experts are telling us that the risk is very high and the costs will be massive and we should change course to try to limit the damage as much as possible…

    • Posted by Paul Swanee, at Reply

      +merrinatrix “Elon Musk is going to create a hell of a lot of jobs pursuing solar energy, and other green technologies” Can you please explain why the # of jobs created is important to the energy industry at all? I can employ 1000 people to mow a field or I can employ 10 people to mow an identical field. Even if they complete task in the same time your argument suggests that employing more people is the smart decision. This is economically wrong. The number of jobs in any industry DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING. All that is, is a number of employees. What matters is your productivity or growth, or scale of production, or market share.

      Congratulations solar has created more jobs than natural gas and coal combined. Why on earth are you satisfied about that when solar produces .9% of total generation compared to 67% by coal and natural gas. Congrats you have 20 million solar untis, but you don’t produce any power. The American consumer does not care about your employment numbers when you compare it to the actual ability for you to have electricity. Solar has very little effect in competition against base-load sources of power.

    • Posted by Paul Swanee, at Reply

      I’m glad to see someone else on here is actually debating solutions to the problems we face. Even if I disagree you have a real message unlike 99% of other users on here and the entire TYT network.

    • Posted by Tylr, at Reply

      lol, the guy deluged with government money creates ”jobs”…right…call me in 10 years when he pulls a solendra…

    • Posted by Daniel Stone, at Reply

      its not a possibility its a fact that is supported by a simple measurement. we know how much carbon is generated by natural processes (this is how carbon dating works) and we know that is only a fraction of what is being put into the environment and it can only be coming from us. it could be fairies or something but i doubt it.

  8. Posted by Ake Hilding, at Reply

    The Republican party is the only major party in the world that is anti science.

    • Posted by TONY, at Reply

      Well, it’s a convenient posture, due to the money from Energy Industry is more relevant to them.
      “;-)

    • Posted by freedombase, at Reply

      not believing in BS does not make one Anti Science

    • Posted by Ake Hilding, at Reply

      Correct, believing in science make one anti BS.

  9. Posted by Rick Jackson, at Reply

    I like how religious people and climate deniers try to delegitimize science by asserting that “science is actually a religion while Christianity is MORE scientific than the scientific method.” Smh

    • Posted by Archivian, at Reply

      Extremes of EVERY group do that. Heck even Militant Atheists do that. There is a science for how groups do that LOL. There is literally a text book for it ( well its scientific method and critical analysis). But all those fringes do the same kind of denial (their version of ‘science’ is magically better) in the same way, EXACTLY the same way.

    • Posted by Listenbuddy1, at Reply

      “Man made climate change” is a substitute for religion for the left. And it’s not a nice religion, a lot similarities to Sharia Law

    • Posted by Richard Castaldo, at Reply

      +Listenbuddy1 i believe the earth is flat and the devil put dinosaurs bones here to trick us. Gravity must be a liberal hoax too, its not mentioned in the bible anywhere!

    • Posted by whyamimrpink78, at Reply

      In reality the political left is turning science into a religion. On this video they talked about “believing science”. And if you question their stance on an issue they attack you with insults instead of having a conversation, like religious people do.

  10. Posted by Golgotha_Mythos69, at Reply

    “Ignorance more frequently begets confidence
    than does knowledge.”
    ~Charles Darwin

    • Posted by OodlesOfSpoodles, at Reply

      HYPNOTIST 39 by that logic people like bill nye have an inherent conflict of intrest, considering his paycheck comes from talking about climate change.

    • Posted by Szriko, at Reply

      +OodlesOfSpoodles
      Bill Nye’s work has nothing to do with climate change or climate science, so no, his paycheck doesn’t come from that at all.

    • Posted by tapolna, at Reply

      HYPNOTIST 39 – the origin of your quote, although phrased slightly differently, was Upton Sinclair

    • Posted by OodlesOfSpoodles, at Reply

      Szriko really i didnt know you didnt get paid thousands of dollars to go on cable news, and a netflix show constantly talking about it. its literally all ge does in the public sphere now. hes the climate change guy. al gore in a bow tie.

    • Posted by HYPNOTIST 39, at Reply

      tapolna Thank you.

  11. Posted by HYPNOTIST 39, at Reply

    It takes more than not believing in something to be a skeptic. A skeptic must be every much an expert on the topic(s) they oppose as a proponent of it. I’m sick of “skeptics” who are just opposition, not skeptics.

  12. Posted by Matthew Sarson, at Reply

    Enough of this ‘hear out other points of view’ nonsense, this guy is provably wrong. It’s like saying the earth is flat.

    • Posted by Thomas Hyle, at Reply

      he’s provably wrong about climate change; he is quite correct about “obey my authoritie” and “obey my majority” not being sound or convincing arguments. He’s right that hierarchical expertism taking a superior attitude toward ordinary citizens is a serious problem in USA; it is the rubric under which for instance police brutality and War crimes are often jsutified “you’re not an LEO or soldier so you just don’t know; that’s how their jobs have to be done.” Same bollocks, didfferent day. “If you can’t explain a thing to an ordinary person using ordinary words then you don’t really understand that thing.”

    • Posted by Thomas Hyle, at Reply

      that’s the Cartman spelling of authoritie lol

    • Posted by Blue Mosquitoes, at Reply

      “He’s right that hierarchical expertism taking a superior attitude toward ordinary citizens is a serious problem in USA”

      How is that a problem? Do you think it’s a problem that I’d rather have a master mechanic work on my car than you? It’s not a problem. The real problem is politicians don’t defer to these experts, they defer to special interests.

    • Posted by Matthew Sarson, at Reply

      Blue Mosquitoes that and the fact people seem to have a problem with experts too begin with. We should not living in a world where politicians should be able to accuse scientists of lying and some how get away with it. Especially given their own horrendous record for lying, particularly republicans. Yet they do because their base has a bad attitude toward intellectuals.

  13. Posted by eatmorenachos, at Reply

    Alternative energy jobs are growing faster than fossil fuels and are one of the fastest-growing sectors of the economy. People who oppose this aren’t interested in jobs or economics, they just want to protect their buddies and financial backers in big oil.

    • Posted by k mn, at Reply

      @eatmorenachos – Thank you. The right is so out of touch. They want jobs, but they keep promoting bringing back jobs that are dead/dying. They are small govt, but they want to restrict what we can put in/take out of our bodies. They want religious freedom, but get elected based on taking religious freedom from Americans with differing views. The GOP is literally a walking oxymoron.

    • Posted by whyamimrpink78, at Reply

      We need to ease into those jobs, not force them. Forcing them will lead to jobs being lost for others. Saying that “alternative energy jobs are growing faster” does not mean we should kill other jobs. What it means is that in a free market they will eventually phase out and the new ones will phase in. No need to force change.

  14. Posted by gitarrillo 20, at Reply

    muricans are so dumb. can’t believe man-made climate change is still up for debate over there. so glad to be living in enlightened europe now

    • Posted by Sweederland Johnson, at Reply

      gitarrillo 20 yup this is the master plan of the elite: keep us dumb and sick because it’s easier to run an oligarchy that way.

    • Posted by gitarrillo 20, at Reply

      true… why do you think i left 5 years ago?

  15. Posted by kestrel archer, at Reply

    “climate agnostic” lmao whats next? “climate atheist”

    • Posted by rparsi, at Reply

      I’m betting on “born-again climatologist”

    • Posted by Fucker Carlson, at Reply

      I’m a “compassionate climatologist.”

    • Posted by rparsi, at Reply

      LOL “Fucker Carlson”…excellent name, I haven’t laughed this hard in a while.

  16. Posted by potterzebra, at Reply

    Conservatives, particularly religious conservatives, have a deplorable habit of equating science with “faith.” Faith is the acceptance of assertions without evidence. Science is the search for the best evidence.

    • Posted by Sweederland Johnson, at Reply

      CLOROX peer review is science you idiot.

    • Posted by potterzebra, at Reply

      “The search” involves some variant of the scientific method. Typically, you have an idea (hypothesis) about how or why some observed phenomenon occurs. Then you gather data, and/or create a testing method for your idea. Then you get other knowledgable people to critique your methodology and conclusions (peer review). Peer review isn’t perfect, because everyone has biases, but if there is enough evidence from enough sources (as is the case with global warming) you have to take it seriously.

    • Posted by whyamimrpink78, at Reply

      Uh, it has been the political left that has turned science into a religion.

    • Posted by whyamimrpink78, at Reply

      Most peer reviewed sources do not take a stance on the issue of climate change.

  17. Posted by sean fast, at Reply

    apparently no conservatives learned about the green house effect in elementary school
    I can prove it real quick go in ur garage turn on the car and see how co2 works

    • Posted by ratamacue0, at Reply

      sean fast that’s CO, not CO2. 🙁

    • Posted by Sweederland Johnson, at Reply

      I guess ratamacue0 did his book reports.

    • Posted by DeletedDelusion, at Reply

      Every car since the 90s is required to have a catalyser installed that is turning carbon monoxide, hydrocarbon and nitric oxide into carbon dioxide, water and nitrogen. Sure it needs to reach its working temperature first, so it depends on the size of the garage if it is CO or CO2 that will prove fatal.

    • Posted by fredman1085, at Reply

      Tell them to keep the doors closed.

  18. Posted by Garfuck, at Reply

    Aren’t you Americans “Fahrenheit” people? Weird to see a statistic with “Celcius”.

    • Posted by Ben Monroe, at Reply

      Scientists use Celsius here.

    • Posted by Robert Bobsky, at Reply

      Garf…  America is officially a “metric” country.  Celsius,  mm, Km, grams, Kg etc. are all ok.  They should get with the times, join the rest of the world.   Just sayin’.

    • Posted by Snape Nightmare, at Reply

      Ben Monroe true Americans use fahrenheit. Only fake scientists use Celsius.