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  1. Posted by Jamie Cox, at Reply

    there’s no money in politics…….just the money in the politicians pockets! but honestly, isn’t prostitution illegal because that’s exactly what our politicians are!

    • Posted by Flypurplecat, at Reply

      I am trying to find one politician who is not ostensibly driven by money. They introduce them on TV & tell u right out whose pocket they’re in…so and so, ‘a favorite of the Koch Bros’, or Speaker Paul (who is trying to baby-size health care) Wisconsin is SO PROUD). I do remember gentlemen of both parties being described as ‘poor but honest’ probably a little exaggerated but integrity was still valued in the 50’s I think. Now, there is SO much info from so many sources and values have changed (TRUMP lies? So what?), that campaigns are merely money collection contests or gerrymandering systems competing…looked at voting systems lately? Or ‘voting machines’? It’s all a huge laugh. It is states competing for having the most help from outside, out of the country, now..the other side of the globe. Putins hands are filthy & no one cares. Donald lies compulsively & it’s a big joke to TV pundits. What the hell is happening to our democracy?

    • Posted by Mike J, at Reply

      Doesn’t matter. Most of that is irrelevant because even most republicans have differences of opinion on that idea. Some Republicans think they’re cute by making out some list of non voters and sharing that as some cute spectacle about how great they are. Many Republicans don’t even make it to voting booths.. even the poltiicians themselves. Lets just be real.

  2. Posted by UNC GRAD, at Reply

    *Tulsi Gabbard 2020!*

    • Posted by HawaiianZach, at Reply

      NO! Hell No

    • Posted by You Lie, at Reply

      NO.

    • Posted by trolltider är här, at Reply

      UNC GRAD my choice would be Nina Turner and Tulsi Gabbard as chief for the militery .

    • Posted by Ryne Green, at Reply

      kim weaver how so?

  3. Posted by UNC GRAD, at Reply

    Trump trolls come here all the time crying about TYT reporting…..
    *SAD!*

    • Posted by nohat 1375, at Reply

      UNC GRAD how do uk they are trump supporters?

  4. Posted by Ray Fire, at Reply

    TYT is garbage #LoserCenk Armenian genocide denying scumbag Cenk #BaconGrease

    • Posted by sharper68, at Reply

      +Darksider Denying reality is all you have.

  5. Posted by Don The Con, at Reply

    *tulsi is unstoppable! tulsi 2020!*

    • Posted by Don The Con, at Reply

      Her dad was a local politician. The horror…

    • Posted by Amy He, at Reply

      Don The Con PLEASE look into her and her parents’ past before making your judgement. While I am very happy with what she supports now, I’ve always been wary of her as a politician because of what she has said and done in the past.

    • Posted by trolltider är här, at Reply

      Don The Con Nina Turner and Tulsi as chief for the militery , that’s a strong team 😊

  6. Posted by yumri4, at Reply

    i hope it will be picked up by other states too

    • Posted by Angie Norton, at Reply

      yumri4 There are other states that are putting forth resolutions. If you go to the Wolf-PAC website, you can find your state and get involved. I did last year in my state and I am glad I did.

    • Posted by kim weaver, at Reply

      The TEA party was a Koch/Heritage scam……. until it wasn’t. Morphed. WolfPAC is NOT a scam. Loosen up your foil chapeau. It’s too tight.

  7. Posted by pyro 494, at Reply

    Asking this congress to get money out of politics is like asking a predator to not hunt. It’s self destructive for them.

  8. Posted by Squid For Hire, at Reply

    Listening to the rep from Common Cause… Wow, terrible, terrible answer.

    • Posted by Barry, at Reply

      Squid For Hire It was some of the stupidest drivel I have heard in a long time.

  9. Posted by Mark, at Reply

    Sorry trolls, you can criticize Cenk all you want on other issues all you want….this is one he is 100% correct, trolling it just looks like mindless stupidity

    • Posted by Mark, at Reply

      Such a stupid argument, changing the rules would prevent unions and PP from donating as well, it does not matter if he specifically points them out. And the libertarian argument that making the government smaller means special interest cant corrupt it is insane, they can still take it over and because its a democracy they can change the rules if they feel like it, or bribe your court system or whatever they feel like

    • Posted by William Blair, at Reply

      Bankruptcy? Seriously? After the long line of greedy MFers’ hands out – The leading cause of death in the US is avarice.

    • Posted by whyamimrpink78, at Reply

      Mark, if they have limited powers, such as those listed in the constitution, than the government cannot be bought.

    • Posted by Mark, at Reply

      Yes it can, you just buy it and change the rules

  10. Posted by Chris Cull, at Reply

    ACLU – “We don’t oppose it. We’re just opposing it”

    • Posted by Andy Brice, at Reply

      The ACLU have a sound point here though. It’s very difficult to write regulations on financing campaigns. Because they can easily be abused by the government in order to silence critics. That’s exactly what Richard Nixon did. Which is why the ACLU don’t support it.

      I want money out of politics. But not through ill-conceived laws that end up censoring free speech in the process.

    • Posted by nickmeistersa, at Reply

      But I presume you’re for actually DOING some rather than not doing anything like the ACLU, right?

    • Posted by Ryan Mironczuk, at Reply

      There are a number of proposals that are already formulated. Examples are the Udall Amendment, the Voter/Donor Rule, Disclosure Requirements, and attempts at Public Financing. To be sure, we are not starting from scratch. States, individually, have tried many of these routes only to be undercut by the federal system, see

      Montana’s
      attempt.

      Wolf-PAC is fighting for a fair conversation- the Limited Amendment Convention- so
      that regular peoples’ voices can be heard again, the way our Founding Fathers
      intended. (as outlined in this excellent, non-partisan
      DOJ Report. I can provide a summary if needed.) The lobbyist here clearly misstated the steps of the Limited Amendment Convention, as no amendment takes effect at the Convention. The amendment proposal is sent back to the States for Ratification (38 States/ 75% must Ratify) This is also clearly outlined in the DOJ report, the experts.

      Both lobbyist show a basic misunderstandings in how the Supreme Court operates.
      1. Its not the Supreme Courts job to legislate from the bench.
      https://www.oyez.org/cases/1789-1850/5us137.

      2. We obviously don’t hold the prevailing perspective on the Court. http://www.scotusblog.com/2017/04/afternoon-round-senate-confirms-gorsuch/

      3. The Supreme Court has already spoken on this issue in the Montana case noted previous.

      Also, to be very clear, YOUR free speech rights are already censored.

      The hard reality is that WOLF PAC is the only group that has a plan to get things. A quick scan through the materials provided prove that.

  11. Posted by Sag Norm, at Reply

    common cause pisses me off. ACLU is just plain stupid supporting money in politics. ACLU are sooo nuanced that they enjoy corruption.

    • Posted by Of Woodbridge and Hedgely, at Reply

      I stopped supporting my home state’s ACLU because of this.

    • Posted by Andy Brice, at Reply

      The ACLU have a sound point here though. It’s very difficult to write regulations on financing campaigns. Because they can easily be abused by the government in order to silence critics. That’s exactly what Richard Nixon did. Which is why the ACLU don’t support it.

      I want money out of politics. But not through ill-conceived laws that end up censoring free speech in the process.

    • Posted by Sag Norm, at Reply

      Andy Brice what are you talking about? it’s very simple. All corporate and big business money in politics should be illegal. individual contributions should have a max limit of 20 dollars. all contributions should be directly to campaigns otherwise they are illegal (no pacs) and add some public financing.

      you and the ACLU live in a strange bubble outside of reality.

    • Posted by Ryan Mironczuk, at Reply

      Wolf-PAC is fighting for a fair conversation- the Limited Amendment Convention- so that regular peoples’ voices can be heard again, the way our Founding Fathers intended.
      (as outlined in this excellent, non-partisan DOJ Report. https://www.i2i.org/files/2013/08/Limited-Article-V-Convention-Attorney-General.pdf I can provide a summary if needed.)
      The lobbyist here clearly misstated the steps of the Limited Amendment Convention, as no amendment takes effect at the Convention. The amendment proposal is sent back to the States for Ratification (38
      States/ 75% must Ratify) This is also clearly outlined in the DOJ report, the experts.

      Both lobbyists show a basic misunderstandings in how the Supreme Court
      operates.
      1. Its not the Supreme Courts job to legislate from the bench.
      https://www.oyez.org/cases/1789-1850/5us137.

      2. We obviously don’t hold the prevailing perspective on the Court. http://www.scotusblog.com/2017/04/afternoon-round-senate-confirms-gorsuch/

      3. The Supreme Court has already spoken on this issue. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Tradition_Partnership,_Inc._v._Montana

      Also, to be very clear, YOUR free speech rights are already censored. https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

      The hard reality is that WOLF PAC is the only group that has a plan to get things. A quick scan through the materials provided prove that.

  12. Posted by chickendinner2012, at Reply

    Get involved with Wolf PAC in your state and get big money out of politics, this is a nonpartisan issue on the local level.

    • Posted by nohat 1375, at Reply

      chickendinner2012 i might if cenk didnt lose my trust

  13. Posted by Stefán Örvar Sigmundsson, at Reply

    ACLU spokesperson: We’re fine with money in politics.
    CC spokesperson: We’re not fine with money in politics but we only want a solution we know will never pass.

    • Posted by arsenelupin123, at Reply

      Stefán Örvar Sigmundsson I agree, I’m just making sure everyone has the info. Cenk has a tendency to strawman and omit when it suits him.

    • Posted by S. T., at Reply

      Hi, Wolf-PAC is fighting for a fair conversation- the Limited Amendment Convention- so that regular peoples’ voices can be heard again, the way our Founding Fathers intended.
      (as outlined in this excellent, non-partisan DOJ Report. https://www.i2i.org/…/Limited-Article-V-Convention… I can provide a summary if needed.)
      The lobbyist here clearly misstated the steps of the Limited Amendment Convention, as no amendment takes effect at the Convention. The amendment proposal is sent back to the States for Ratification (38
      States/ 75% must Ratify) This is also clearly outlined in the DOJ report, the experts.

      Both lobbyists show a basic misunderstandings in how the Supreme Court
      operates.
      1. Its not the Supreme Courts job to legislate from the bench.
      https://www.oyez.org/cases/1789-1850/5us137.

      2. We obviously don’t hold the prevailing perspective on the Court. http://www.scotusblog.com/…/afternoon-round-senate…/

      3. The Supreme Court has already spoken on this issue. https://en.wikipedia.org/…/Western_Tradition…

      Also, to be very clear, YOUR free speech rights are already censored. https://scholar.princeton.edu/…/gilens_and_page_2014…

      The hard reality is that WOLF PAC is the only group that has a plan to get things. A quick scan through the materials provided prove that.

    • Posted by arsenelupin123, at Reply

      These people were clearly not prepared. They’re probably not used to have opposition.

      I expect the ACLU to have better people on the field. Common Cause, not so much.

  14. Posted by mus5599, at Reply

    That ACLU rep is corrupt but has some nice titties.

  15. Posted by The Deep North, at Reply

    It’s both sad and puzzling to see organizations like the ACLU and Common Cause fighting on the wrong side of the issue when they should logically be fighting WITH Wolf-Pac on this one.

    • Posted by Travis Rogers, at Reply

      The Deep North I agree with you wholeheartedly however when I see your icon the only thing that comes to my mind is, “Don’t be sad Paeter that’s why they call it Shpoople”

  16. Posted by Jeremy Merrifield, at Reply

    If Common Cause having been trying for 40 years to get something done and failing , I would suggest a change in strategy

    • Posted by lolcatjunior, at Reply

      Jeremy Merrifield They fight against wolf PAC while claiming to be fighting for the same thing. They are paid to lose.

  17. Posted by Jim Boyles, at Reply

    Common Cause = Common Con.
    Take any money you want to give the ACLU and send it elsewhere until they dump this ridiculous position and make sure to tell them as much. I would recommend groups like the Electronic Freedom Foundation instead and likewise groups. …and of course WolfPAC and Justice Democrats.

  18. Posted by Melpheos1er, at Reply

    I’m still completely baffled on ACLU position regarding money in politics… Money is not fucking speech.

    • Posted by Andy Brice, at Reply

      True, but in the past, laws covering money in politics have been abused by governments to silence their critics. That’s what Richard Nixon did. Which is why the ACLU don’t support this.

      I want money out of politics. But not through ill-conceived laws that end up censoring free speech in the process.

    • Posted by platypuss619, at Reply

      +Andy Brice can you expand on laws covering money in politics have been abused by govt to silence their critics? Like where and how does this happen, im honestly curious.

  19. Posted by Richard Hunter, at Reply

    Love the way someone in the Hawaiian senate is wearing a Hawaiian shirt!