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Toy guns are causing too many people to get killed. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian, hosts of The Young Turks, break it down. Tell us what you think in the comment section below.

“WE’RE TALKING about this 26 years later, and I’m not sure anything has really changed except that tragic occurrences continue to happen.” So commented Chuck Wexler of the Police Executive Research Forum about fatal police shootings involving people with toy, air and replica guns. That Mr. Wexler’s comments were made to reporters undertaking what amounts to the first real study of this issue in decades speaks volumes about the lack of progress in coming up with solutions to this problem. And that underscores the need to break the stranglehold the national gun lobby has managed to place on scientific research into gun violence.

As part of its ongoing examination of fatal shootings by police started in 2015, The Post examined what police across the country say are increasing faceoffs against people with toy or replica guns that are so realistic they look identical to real weapons. At least 86 people over the past two years were killed in these encounters, according to the “Fatal Force” report, the first accounting since a study in 1990, when Congress last addressed the issue. Other revelations from the Post report: Mental illness was a common theme, white men were the majority of victims, and the calls included domestic disturbances, robberies and neighborhood patrols.”

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70 comments

  1. Posted by Andy Dominguez, at Reply

    We need a ban on toy guns until we can figure out what’s going on.

    • Posted by Anthony Tecchio, at Reply

      lol Muslims

    • Posted by George Orwell was a lifelong socialist, at Reply

      Hey Andy! Guns killed a thousand times more Americans in 2015 than
      terrorists did. When will you stop whining about Muslims? 🙂

    • Posted by xb3l13v3r, at Reply

      +Skyhulk95 lol what did mexicans do? They are native to north america…
      white peoples aren’t, nor black people’s, or any other peoples besides
      other Native American’s…

      LOL but what did they do…

  2. Posted by Robert Padua, at Reply

    Police will kill you anyway! Toy guns or not!

    • Posted by John Flannigan, at Reply

      If you’re white

    • Posted by Alex Lowey, at Reply

      With talk like that you make it obvious you need to be enslaved comrade you
      are so brainwashed slaves you should let us sell you to Chinese so we don’t
      have to pay for your welfare

    • Posted by Dictator In Perpetuity, at Reply

      +Alex Lowey

      dude, the Chinese are already buying your debt.. how do you think you can
      afford toilet paper?

  3. Posted by sam seiler, at Reply

    California recently passed sb-199 which requires replica / airsoft guns to
    have distinct orange markings. As someone who plays airsoft recreationally,
    it was an inconvenience finding regulation replica guns, but knowing that
    nearly 100 people died because of realistic toys i support the legislation.

    • Posted by Alex N, at Reply

      so what’s preventing a gang member from painting his real gun orange? And
      once he does, what’s the point of this regulation? Californication..

    • Posted by M Shakir, at Reply

      that’s like that everywhere. however you can take it off. it’s usually just
      plastic if the orange isn’t painted directly on the barrel. in that case
      people just paint over it.

    • Posted by MomoTheBellyDancer, at Reply

      *”California recently passed sb-199 which requires replica / airsoft guns
      to have distinct orange markings. “*

      Of course, you could then put those markings on a real gun and just carry
      your weapon unconcealed.

  4. Posted by Kareem, at Reply

    TRUMP always stick to his GUNS, and liberals keep getting trigger. enough
    said

    • Posted by George Orwell was a lifelong socialist, at Reply

      teedonster2: You ARE the follower of an alt right/white supremacist
      advocate who works for a white supremacist “news” source.

    • Posted by George Orwell was a lifelong socialist, at Reply

      Kareem: being a token Regressive never earns you any respect from other
      commenters like “Хлоя Марш,” who, in addition to her racist slur against
      you, says if you get shot you’ll deserve it.

    • Posted by teedonster2, at Reply

      you’re making a whole lot of presumptions. Would you like to try again?
      Have you learnt nothing from Trumps victory?

    • Posted by ATAX, at Reply

      George Orwell was a lifelong socialist Are you talking about Breitbart?
      Huh, kind of hard to tell with all the gay Jews employed and Pro Israel
      stance. Yep, seems white supremacist to me.

    • Posted by ATAX, at Reply

      George Orwell was a lifelong socialist Are you talking about Breitbart?
      Huh, kind of hard to tell with all the gay Jews employed and Pro Israel
      stance. Yep, seems white supremacist to me.

  5. Posted by Kareem, at Reply

    SO MANY GUNS!!
    TRUMP already putting steal workers back to work…..

    • Posted by God Usopp, at Reply

      +Kareem just not you, troll

    • Posted by Thomas Paine, at Reply

      “Steal” workers? Steel workers or crooks ?

    • Posted by Dominion, at Reply

      Gun sales will take a dive during Trump. Nobody is afraid they’re gonna get
      restricted now so they won’t bother rushing to stores to buy guns and get
      them grandfathered in. Every time they add new gun restrictions, sales go
      up. Obama and Hillary were the best thing that ever happened to gun
      manufacturers. 2016 broke several sales records in anticipation of Hillary.
      I finally added an AR15 to my collection thanks to her:)

    • Posted by Thomas Paine, at Reply

      +Dominion
      Well, Pres Obama didn’t take away anyone’s guns did he ?
      BTW, can’t you see that if Wall St. wants us and the govt to do something,
      they have all the big guns? And Trump is surely going to be run by our
      ultimate masters, the multinational too big to fail corps on Wall St, who
      are also too big to jail.
      Just look at his cabinet. They are not main street businessmen. They are
      the big ones who game the system, who get corporate welfare from your and
      my taxes.
      This is not the 1890’s and no amount of AR-15’s can free us. Get Bernie
      Sanders or someone with integrity into office, and then we have a chance,
      someone who is for The People, and for the programs that the people want,
      both left and right wingers, see the polls. Like no NSA spying on citizens.
      This is not Westworld.
      Honestly, do I make sense ? I don’t want Hillary Clinton in power either,
      since she is just part of the Clinton dynasty, and doesn’t deserve the
      office as a former first Lady, with limited experience and judgement of her
      own.
      … a former NRA member who knows how to shoot too, but voted for Bernie.

  6. Posted by Lord Kizzle, at Reply

    Because once you ban the toy guns for being too dangerous there’s only one
    logical next step.

    • Posted by playgrrrr, at Reply

      Idd, and that step is less people getting shot for having toy guns

    • Posted by SizzleMcSizzle, at Reply

      ban nailguns

  7. Posted by Jekyll Hyde, at Reply

    Funny how TYT doesn’t report all the deaths that happen this weekend in
    chitown…. but I thought TYT cares about black lives… mhmmm no they only
    care about race baiting propaganda…. if it’s black on black genocide…
    TYT will never report it unless if it involved a black cop…. TYT = Fake
    News Race Baiting Propagand channel

    • Posted by bobby, at Reply

      The Democrats are mum on the murders of over 725 people in Chicago this
      year, because the city is run by Democrats, who either can’t or won’t do
      anything about it. It’s tough for TYT to point to finger-point their party,
      when blaming the Republicans is what his site is all about.

    • Posted by ATAX, at Reply

      8 bit synth Wow, that was the most baseless claim I’ve ever seen. It’s
      hilarious that you’ve not heard the Trey Gowdy, South Carolina and
      Massachusetts prosecutor testimony on black on black crime. Different
      hemispheres in the US. Same problems with black violence; in that a large
      amount go unsolved and the biggest impediment to cases was simply getting
      witnesses to cooperate with police. You know, that witness intimidation
      tactic specifically black criminals like to use and the black subculture
      snitches get stitches and “I don’t rat to police” as a frame of mind. Even
      in the murder of an 8 year old at his birthday party, nobody would talk to
      police. I’m sure you know Tamir Rice, but what was that kids name? Or the
      black mother that railed against BLM and went onto FOX, because they took
      no interest in her dead baby that was shot in the head while doing her
      homework. Or what about that BLM platform where a general of police was
      texting while they said their peace. Then when asked by the lack in
      courtesy (as if you’d ever get that from BLM anyway) he apologized but not
      without justifying his lack in interest. He finally admitted he had to
      leave promptly to the murder of a 5 year old shot in the head. I don’t know
      where you get your lacking info from, probably tyt that vilify police on
      the regular bases. The largest travesty to black lives are claims, like
      yours that hold no bases in reality and steer people away from what is
      objectively true in the numbers and anecdotes. How do we help black victims
      by preaching falsity and blaming others and claiming unfounded statistics
      or taking true statistics and spinning them? Yes, this millennial
      generation/proBLM is the largest travesty to black homicide victims and
      they will have no justice nor their names remembered but this generation
      will remember the criminal Michael Brown. That you can bet on. I guess
      we’ll have to wait another few generations till the stains of this one is
      washed and a higher IQ generation comes in and actually identifies the
      problems and makes progress instead of the regression we have today.

  8. Posted by juan “wgjung” gomez, at Reply

    But fake guns also lower the number of death by suicide.

    • Posted by bobby, at Reply

      Sure do, but it has raised the number of sleeping pills sold.

  9. Posted by Saintly Oswald, at Reply

    People should just buy real guns to avoid this confusion.

    • Posted by Saintly Oswald, at Reply

      +Dictator In Perpetuity
      Last toddler standing becomes president!

    • Posted by Dictator In Perpetuity, at Reply

      +Saintly Oswald

      it just did …

    • Posted by Olivier L, at Reply

      LOL

  10. Posted by Internet Tuff Guy, at Reply

    Fire Ana, Cenk, John, that gay chick, the Asian guy *and* the Irish
    sounding guy.

    Worst lineup for a “News” Show in History.

    • Posted by Internet Tuff Guy, at Reply

      TYT is funded by Saudi Arabia; in order to destabilize America.

      TYT should be kicked offline for “Fake News”. And I hope Cenk gets beaten
      within an inch of His Life, by Gangsters.

      Disgusting degenerate Turkish piece of Garbage.

    • Posted by Internet Tuff Guy, at Reply

      Cenk Uygur deserves the worst in life.

    • Posted by Ryan Hartigan, at Reply

      You are a nasty little troll, aren’t you? Such an unpleasant creature… I
      pity you.

  11. Posted by arithsem, at Reply

    Fake guns don’t kill people fake people do

    • Posted by A Rogue Chihuahua, at Reply

      I had to respond to your comment to give you a thumbs up! Damn right!

    • Posted by arithsem, at Reply

      wolf wolf (wagging tail)

    • Posted by A Rogue Chihuahua, at Reply

      +arithsem *rolls* over

  12. Posted by Kenneth Jones, at Reply

    The toy guns I’ve seen in stores all have at least that Orange cap on it.
    I’m somewhat sure there are Law’s on toy guns.

    • Posted by Michael Berthelsen, at Reply

      Kenneth Jones Pellet and BB guns are open barrel, so no orange tip. =S

    • Posted by xinic5, at Reply

      Some toy guns the red or orange tips are only on the inside and hard to
      see. I have a silver gun from when I was a kid that only has the inside
      red, and it’s all faded due to age.

    • Posted by Der Humanist, at Reply

      Depends on the state you’re in. In some states the muzzle has to be painted
      orange, in others the gun doesn’t have to be marked in any way.

  13. Posted by jeff milligan, at Reply

    It appears that gender is the elephant in the room :
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/

    • Posted by jamham69, at Reply

      Its not something they mentioned, but im not sure it needs mentioning.
      We know that this Aggro-masculine attitude are meant to have breeds
      confrontation. Its a shame, but the small number of shootings against women
      doesn’t surprise me at all. (to be clear, im not pro-violence against women)

    • Posted by MartianBlues, at Reply

      jeff milligan
      Women rarely commit crimes that get them shot by cops, women commit
      virtually zero murders against police, young girls rarely carry/play with
      toy guns, and grown women are much less likely to own a gun let alone carry
      one on their person which could lead a police officer to shoot them out of
      fear of the gun.
      Leave the gender baiting elsewhere.

    • Posted by UlyssesGaming, at Reply

      Yep absolutely and your argument equally applies with race. Black men
      commit more crimes and there for suffer greater police brutality.

  14. Posted by Justin Mielke, at Reply

    don’t some replicas look and act (fake reload) exactly like a real one.

    • Posted by A Rogue Chihuahua, at Reply

      Yep, all the way down to even having snap cap looking magazines and stuff
      like that. The snap cap mags are literally made to look like a real bullet
      loaded into the cylinder. The cop sees realistic bullets in realistic
      revolvers

  15. Posted by Spartacus of Thrace, at Reply

    White men should be the majority of victims. They are majority of male
    population and men overwhelmingly walk around with guns (fake & real)

    • Posted by Rick Rodriguez, at Reply

      Spartacus of Thrace They get killed at a higher rate than their numbers
      should account for..clearly its racism.

    • Posted by George Orwell was a lifelong socialist, at Reply

      Rick Rodriguez: By population, black men are about 3-7 times more likely to
      get shot than white people. Glad you brought that up.

  16. Posted by ZarlanTheGreen, at Reply

    People get shot, because they are holding toy guns, that look like real
    guns?
    But surely you’re allowed to carry real guns, in the US (which makes no
    sense to the civilized part of the world), so why do they get shot?

    • Posted by Anita Smith, at Reply

      xinic5 that guy in walmart and tamyr rice were both in open carry
      states…. so like ive been saying open carry is fir white ppl only.
      apparently

    • Posted by ZarlanTheGreen, at Reply

      +xinic5 True, but it is legal in a lot of states. Why would there be an
      issue, in those states?

      *”I live in an open carry state and you still don’t see guns out in the
      open ever in the city I live in.”*

      Maybe not, but it is still legal. It is something that you’re supposed to
      be fully allowed to do …so why are they getting shot, for doing something
      that they are supposedly allowed to do?
      I don’t agree with open carry, but…
      that’s just incoherent and contradictory.

      *”Also, buisnesses can refuse to allow guns on their property.”*

      That doesn’t address carry in open *public* spaces …and the report wasn’t
      really about people who were in businesses, AFAIK.

    • Posted by ZarlanTheGreen, at Reply

      +Anita Smith *”so like ive been saying open carry is fir white ppl only.
      apparently”*

      …except that the report mentioned that white males where the main
      victims, so racism doesn’t seem to be the factor here (in most of the
      cases, at least).

      That’s what threw me.

      Had it been mainly just blacks and hispanics, then I wouldn’t be the least
      bit surprised.
      It’d just be the normal police racism, that happens all the time.
      If I see a title/headline like “an innocent black man was shot in the back
      by police”, I don’t bother to look/read it.
      That’s not news, it’s an everyday occurrence.
      Horrific injustice yes, but not news.

    • Posted by Jason Gray, at Reply

      I’m sure a percentage of them get shot because they don’t comply, and the
      rest get shot by trigger happy cops.
      There is a huge distinction between carrying a weapon and brandishing a
      weapon. I think it would be a pretty safe bet that not one of these people
      got shot because they had a holstered gun on them.

  17. Posted by bobby, at Reply

    Explain to me again as to how a fake gun can kill a lot of people?

    • Posted by bobby, at Reply

      +TheHigherVoltage
      I followed your advice, and watched it. Again.
      Now, (for the hard of hearing), EXPLAIN TO ME AGAIN AS TO HOW A FAKE GUN
      CAN KILL A LOT OF PEOPLE.

    • Posted by TheHigherVoltage, at Reply

      Huh…so you watched the video twice and still didn’t grasp the fact that
      cops are killing people who are brandishing and pointing fake guns at
      others.

    • Posted by bobby, at Reply

      +TheHigherVoltage
      Indeed, I do understand that the police do indeed kill people who are
      brandishing & pointing fake guns at others. That’s a fact. But another fact
      is, and one that I have trouble getting thru to you, is that the fake guns
      are not “killing a lot of people”. The fake gun might (and do) result in
      people getting killed, but a fake gun does not, nor can it, kill anything.
      It simply can’t . . . it’s a fake.

    • Posted by bobby, at Reply

      +TheHigherVoltage
      Ok . . . how about re-titling the video, as it could not have been more
      inaccurate. May I suggest to TYT –
      “Fake Guns Are Getting A Lot Of People Killed”.

    • Posted by TheHigherVoltage, at Reply

      +bobby It’s an accurate title. No different than “faulty seat belts are
      killing a lot of people”. or “poisoned candy is killing a lot of people”.

  18. Posted by Dwight Schrute, at Reply

    Once again I’m truly baffled at why anyone other than trolls would dislike
    this. Are you in favor of people getting shot for having toy guns?

  19. Posted by Kenshin Himura, at Reply

    Stupid people are killing a lot of people. There ya go TYT. I fixed the
    title for you.

  20. Posted by David Amrod, at Reply

    Dang! Remember when toy guns had to be silly colors… back then it was the
    law… then it was done away with…