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Michael Lighty, Director of Public law for National Nurses United, joins Jimmy Dore to talk about how you can best get single-payer passed in The golden state. Enjoy the full Aggressive Progressives episode right here:

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Jimmy Dore, Stef Zamorano, & Dave Dayen on this week's Aggressive Progressives. The triad talk about single-payer health care, Dave's write-up in The Intercept, and also Prop 98. Ron Placone joins and Michael Lighty, Supervisor of Public law from the CNA, skypes in to discuss the health care bill.

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" Turns out it's simple for a Democratic legislature to pass single-payer under a Republican Guv, yet despite having a Democrat in workplace, it's success is far from guaranteed. So an immediate job for supporters is to encourage Gov. Jerry Brown that now is the time.

What's different now? Initially, whatever form ACA "repeal and change" inevitably takes, Californians are not going to let Democrats just criticize the GOP when Democrats manage all branches of federal government below. Neither need to they. If the ACA was a compromise with national political pressures, there's no reason The golden state need to simply attempt to patch it up after it's taken down. Neither would it be easy to ask those that presently have health care advantages to totally pay for any kind of loss of insurance coverage they might suffer in the wake of GOP-led health and wellness reform. From a policy viewpoint, the complexity of the ACA's financing as well as expansion of insurance coverage could be changed by the less complex system of single-payer, which accomplishes better price financial savings and also more comprehensive client selection, while maintaining extensive advantages." *.

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  1. Posted by xfactor541, at Reply

    bernie 2020

    • Posted by Daniel Kufer, at Reply

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  2. Posted by Cisco Blue, at Reply

    USSR Healthcare > USA Healthcare

    • Posted by Stephen Mystery, at Reply

      DeMechanica, it’s only true by the standard that it’s free. That’s all you guys care about.

    • Posted by Luna vampire, at Reply

      you do know the USSR is gone, the Soviet Union was broken up in 1991 two years after the fall of the Berlin Wall in Germany and the reform of the Soviet Union by the last leader of the SU Mikhail Gorbachev

    • Posted by Luna vampire, at Reply

      Really, how so? I do believe I just want an explanation

    • Posted by DeMachinaMundi, at Reply

      +Stephen
      No. Cuba’s system covers more people and care is more efficient. Cuba spends less as a hard value, as well as pencent of GPD.
      Citizens are healthier in every democraphic group (children, adults and elderly).
      Specially for kids, Cuba’s healthcare is light years ahead of the US.

  3. Posted by Jason Carney, at Reply

    Elimination of lobbyists and corporate money from politics is the key to passing Single Payer or any other pro-99% legislation, just saying…

  4. Posted by elyce hockey, at Reply

    tyt is a new paradigm of light justice n truth / troof

    • Posted by u tubbe, at Reply

      elyce hockey TYT=Fake News

  5. Posted by Boutneus12, at Reply

    Prevent the damn profiteering health insurance lobbyists from lobbying politicians maybe?

  6. Posted by Chunk Oooger, at Reply

    progressives are a putrid cancerous diseased verminous slime that infests America

    • Posted by Stephen Mystery, at Reply

      You know, you can be tolerant and be completely accepting of all races and social classes and also think progressivism is cancerous, which it is.

    • Posted by Hal Jordan, at Reply

      Stephen Mystery
      Being tolerant of different races is literally one of the pillars of progressive thought.

    • Posted by Listenbuddy1, at Reply

      Other than that they’re pretty cool.

  7. Posted by beastalchemist, at Reply

    If insurance providers don’t screw it up, then single payer is very viable.

  8. Posted by Bill Nye Fake Science Guy, at Reply

    “The trouble with Single-Payer is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.”

    • Posted by cne08, at Reply

      The problem with single payer healthcare is nothing.

    • Posted by SpadaccinoLuciano, at Reply

      It’s OUR money, dumbass. That’s what taxes are. It’s not someone else’s money, it’s OUR money, our COUNTRY’S money. It should be used to actually HELP us.

    • Posted by William Rice, at Reply

      Then please explain how current insurance companies that have ot make a profit stay afloat , Whereas single payer doesn’t have to pay a few hundred million dollars because the CEO wants a new mansion or yacht . Oh and Remember you fund it through taxes and it REPLACES private insurance so everyone saves money because its funded through taxes you won’t even feel . and you won’t have to spend hundreds of thousands when you do get sick or need medicine . Remember anyone Can get hurt to the point of hospitalization at any time. no matter how healthy or young you may or may not be .
      I honestly don’t think it sinks in to conservatives that single payer would replace their insurance and they WILL NOT HAVE TO PAY OUT FOR IT MONTHLY . on top of single payer . Any argument against it is just factually wrong . CHINA with over a billion people can have single payer .if they can afford it we can as the wealthiest nation in the world with a population of only 334mil

  9. Posted by Hal Jordan, at Reply

    Healthcare should be affordable for people. This is just common sense. TrumpDontCare is evil.

    • Posted by Shift -Z, at Reply

      is someone’s labor (doctors etc) your Right…I bet slave owners would agree…Is it moral to require future generations to pay for your healthcare today (read: Federal/State debt?)

    • Posted by iZreal A, at Reply

      We should really start calling trump’s “healthcare” bill TDC TrumpDon’tCare

  10. Posted by James Orlando, at Reply

    Have the Mexican peasants vote for it and not pay for it. The dwindling white population can pay for it for a bit until what’s left of them start dying off and/or moving away and the entire state will end up like Detroit. Broke because of all the unfunded liabilities.

    • Posted by Nutrollio Nutz, at Reply

      James Orlando Isn’t there a white flight from California? I heard many are moving away.

    • Posted by Hal Jordan, at Reply

      Stop race-baiting, and use your brain for once.

    • Posted by David Warschauer, at Reply

      James Orlando eat a bag of dicks racist.

    • Posted by james smith, at Reply

      True. Call it “racist” all you want

  11. Posted by D'Reil McClain, at Reply

    Wow! This show is amazing! We have to fight crony capitalism and corporate democrats at every level.

  12. Posted by Mark Broadhurst, at Reply

    You just want to take money out of education and put it in to healthcare.
    we all get healthier and stupider.
    The target democratic voter?

    • Posted by Mark Broadhurst, at Reply

      Qinby 1 yes however when $100 billion every year (plus all the people that will come from other states) becomes unsustainable and the money goes back down, so too does the money for education.
      Of course cali pays about $369bn in taxes and gets about $356bn from the federal government. So you would have to give up about 1/3 of your current spending that’s education, police, fire, road maintenance, trash removal, etc, etc.
      What do you want to give up for this to work? apparently education….

      source for tax budget:
      http://www.politifact.com/california/article/2017/feb/14/does-california-give-more-it-gets-dc/

    • Posted by Mark Broadhurst, at Reply

      R. m and yet thats exactly what is being proposed here.
      Maybe watch the video before commenting…..

    • Posted by Qinby 1, at Reply

      Mark Broadhurst+ Regarding “every body” will move to California, do not think that is an issue and in any case not an argument for not doing single payer. I guess you could say, we cant improve the health care system since then people wont die at the same rate and that will bankrupt us with more unemployment and more pensions. Also  it would depend on who moved, a lot of health care is paid Federally so that would increase AND the “plan” is that if California do this it will become a Federal system.Do not really understand what you mean by “giving up 1/3 of current spending”. YOU ARE NOT GIVING ANYTHING UP, YOU INCREASE THE BUDGET WITH 100 BILL.. In short: Instead of paying insurance premiums (big save for larger corporations) you introduce a tax on these corporations to raise the bulk of the 100 bill, these company’s will still save 1%-4% by not having to provide health care to employees. Since single payer is much more efficient than the profit driven insurance company’s (in many cases 50%) you can afford to increase coverage to everybody and still save on the total amount spent. Only ones losing out is private insurance, people will have more money in pocket and that will promote some growth as well.

    • Posted by Mark Broadhurst, at Reply

      Qinby 1 SUPRISE Lefties support *more taxes* your figure of 100 Billion is actually quite optimistic the figure they are putting out is 200 billion or half what you currently spend.
      Anyone working for the state would be out of a job since you cannot increase taxes by 50% and expect people to pay it. The poorest among us cannot afford the current levels of taxes and you want to make it 50% worse. Have you no heart?
      People who want to exploit the system will live near Cali and pop in for the free healthcare not pay the taxes and get the free healthcare since you are supporting Illegal immigrants how pay very little in to the system to start with and cost the system a lot more.

      We will have to stop calling it California and instead call it new Venezuela

    • Posted by Qinby 1, at Reply

      Mark Broadhurst+ You really don”t understand this?? Do you just make stuff up?? Regarding numbers state your source, link to one source http://www.healthycaliforniaact.org/wp-content/uploads/Pollin-Economic-Analysis-SB-562.pdf. At the moment government/state already pay 70% of Calif. health care. Total cost for state 270 Bill, single payer around 370 bill. Majority of the around 100 bill needed will be paid by “big business”, these 100 bill is less than what these “big business” already pay in health insurance SO THEY WILL SAVE MONEY AND IT WILL BE CHEAPER TO EMPLOY PEOPLE. All this “Psychobabble” about 50% tax hikes?? You should really get of those pills. The REALLY EASY WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT. The US health care does not cover everybody since everybody cant afford insurance/deductibles etc. BUT everybody can go to the ER, EVEN UNINSURED. OFCOURSE somebody has to pay for this. This is done by raising the premiums on insurance i.e. insured people pay for uninsured people “This is Communism” (this is a Republican talking point). Receiving healthcare via the ER is expensive. The system has to change. The rest of the world use Single payer in different forms so it is proven to work. The US pays 100% more /Capita than many AND IT DOES NOT COVER EVERYBODY AND GET WORSE RESULTS. Conclusion CHANGE TO A PROVEN WORKING SYSTEM AND IMPROVE RESULTS AND SAVE MONEY.  Healthcare costs http://www.pgpf.org/chart-archive/0006_health-care-oecd   THIS IS A NO BRAINER

  13. Posted by Trust The Shooters, at Reply

    We got trolls defending Corporations and Corporate Democrats haha. Tools

    • Posted by ScreamingForClemency, at Reply

      useful idiots.

  14. Posted by Gasman, at Reply

    TMZ is more reputable than tyt

    • Posted by What Key?, at Reply

      Gasman The definition of an internet troll: generic ad hominem attack on a show you don’t have to watch

    • Posted by Hal Jordan, at Reply

      Gasman
      My left nut is more reputable than Trump.

    • Posted by Gasman, at Reply

      What Key? I don’t watch it. I just come here to make fun of you losers. mindless zombies bowing to your Muslim prophet Cenk. disgusting slob

    • Posted by Hal Jordan, at Reply

      Gasman
      I love how Cenk runs your life so much, that you go out of your way to talk about him. Pathetic.

  15. Posted by GoldenHairAngel, at Reply

    Single-payer system is a communist system.

    • Posted by Aaron Loyd, at Reply

      Every industrialized country on the planet other than us has a single-payer system. And ALL of them pay less for better healthcare.

    • Posted by GoldenHairAngel, at Reply

      So every industrialized country on the planet other than us is using a communist health care system.

    • Posted by Outlaw7502, at Reply

      Yeah, and it works great. I’m not a communist, but in this case, everyone paying taxes and benefitting from it is great. I live in the UK, and if our government even hinted at getting rid of our NHS, they’d be voted out immediately. Our CONSERVATIVE government supports our NHS.

    • Posted by Qinby 1, at Reply

      You should be vigilant they will try to defund it and the based on “it doesnt work” Privatize it

  16. Posted by Mike, at Reply

    This is stupid. Single payer results in government bureaucrats (not doctors or patients) deciding what procedures are medically necessary. Longer waits. Lower quality. Higher taxes.

    • Posted by Outlaw7502, at Reply

      Not really. I live in the UK, and if the government even hinted at getting rid of our NHS, we’d be up in arms. Yeah, we pay a little more in taxes and have slightly longer waiting times (even this is dependant on the area you live in), but in return we don’t get in ridiculous amounts of debt, and everything is essentially free.

      At the end of the day, would you rather have a democratically elected government looking after you, or a group of private corporations that don’t care about you, but care about maximising profit?

    • Posted by Wholesome XX, at Reply

      Outlaw7502 bs! Once you take competition out of the picture, complacent sets in. It becomes one big, slow bureaucratic mess…
      https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2015/dec/08/nhs-rationing-denying-patients-care-cash-crisis-survery-doctors

    • Posted by Mike, at Reply

      Sympath der Seefahrer because we don’t want your socialism over here. we don’t want your high taxes. and we don’t want people in suits telling us how to live. regardless of how benevolent they may or may not be

  17. Posted by The Prodigal Champ, at Reply

    The Title of this video should be ” How To Achieve Another $27 Billion Dollar Deficit In California ” 😂😂😂

    • Posted by M A, at Reply

      The Prodigal Champ we have a deficit because all our taxes go to Red States to keep their population fed and scared of immigrants.

    • Posted by The Prodigal Champ, at Reply

      M A 1 You don’t know what a deficit is so shuddup! 2 The reason red states are more on social programs is because of idiot policies like NAFTA by the Blue election politicains that have stripped the industry sector of middle America! It’s not like Red states woke up one morning and became meth smoking rubes all of a sudden! 😂😂😂😂

    • Posted by Outlaw7502, at Reply

      Well, the red states are less prosperous and Republican, and the blue states are more prosperous and Democratic. The vast majority of big, bustling cities and tourist attractions are in blue states. Notice a correlation?

  18. Posted by AntiFOX, at Reply

    How to achieve single-payer in California?
    Easy:
    #demexit & progressive third party!

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  19. Posted by Kaps1.618, at Reply

    Did anyone else read the first time single-player instead of payer?

  20. Posted by spooder man the cuck slayer, at Reply

    Pay for your own healthcare you greedy liberal bastards

    • Posted by AIReject, at Reply

      So you pay full price for all your medical procedures? Or do you pay into a system that others also pay into so you all contribute for when you need it? Because whether it’s government or an insurance provider, no one truly pays for their own healthcare completely unless there are people who are both very rich and yet so stupid they don’t have decent insurance.

    • Posted by Jenlagen, at Reply

      AIReject Im sure he pays 2 grand every time he gets his physical. Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt

    • Posted by CovfefeAddict, at Reply

      Your health isn’t a commodity, you greedy, Ayn Rand fellating piece of filth.

    • Posted by ScreamingForClemency, at Reply

      paying for health INSURANCE through taxation IS paying for your own health care. provided you pay taxes.