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  1. Posted by Tom Delargy, at Reply

    As much as I believe in his views and support him, he’s weak as a leader. However, there is no better option that even stands a chance of winning against Theresa May’s Conservatives. I urge those who are old enough to vote (Brits/ Commonwealth members obviously) for them!

    • Posted by The Progressive Brit, at Reply

      He is a weak leader, if you think empathy and compassion are signs of weakness and not strength, like they are. Or you are just parroting something you heard. Yes i wish he was harsher on the blairites, but i still believe in him and his policies

    • Posted by Peter Dodd, at Reply

      Tom Delargy he does however have the largest support from its members right? as in two leadership ellections..

    • Posted by Peter Dodd, at Reply

      I personally believe that if he capitulated with the members that disagrees with him that would be a show of weakness

    • Posted by HellSpunk, at Reply

      How about we stop conflating militant stubbornness with strength? He’s doing as leader as he’s done in parliament the last 34 years, protest from the sidelines. A leader he ain’t. A leader would take a divided party, as Blair did, and turn it into something that can win elections.

      Labour has done what Conservatives did before them, lurched right/left in the hopes that ideological purity can win. Corbyn is Ian Duncan Smith, only this time the quiet man doesn’t have the sense to resign.

    • Posted by Peter Dodd, at Reply

      HellSpunk i will as long as we stop calling principaled and humanitarian a weakness.. i mean you try to compare him to IDS.. well lets forget the Universal Credit roll out eh?

  2. Posted by David Steere, at Reply

    neo liberal
    platform
    railroad
    no no no these are the not our words use them for your own politics but not In relation to the uk

    • Posted by David Steere, at Reply

      BirthdayBoy ! who? me? no why

    • Posted by BirthdayBoy !, at Reply

      Political ideology is not something which only applies to one country an example would be communism
      neo-liberal is a world-wide ideology and as such applies to the U.S Japan U.K and so on and so on.

    • Posted by chickendinner2012, at Reply

      Blair is a Neoliberal War Criminal.

    • Posted by David Steere, at Reply

      BirthdayBoy ! but we do not call ideologies the same thing we have different terms. you do not reffer to neo liberal in the labour party you reffer to Blair-rights or the centre left faction. ideologies are somewhat international of course but terms and labels are not

    • Posted by David Steere, at Reply

      chickendinner2012 he is I agree

  3. Posted by Hawbitten, at Reply

    “Jeremy Corbin is the Bernie Sanders of the UK” Expect he has no charisma and no brain. No-one in the the UK respects Corbin. He’s an albatross round the neck of labour. Not it’s savour.

    • Posted by DefeatGlobalism, at Reply

      Trump has plenty of charisma and respect among his own base. Corybn is a complete pariah at this point, nobody likes him not even his own base.

    • Posted by Tories Out, at Reply

      Many of us respect Corbyn. Who do you think you are trying to speak on behalf of a whole country?!

    • Posted by Miss Michelle, at Reply

      He has much more charisma than May. He is also able to relate to people and show empathy.

    • Posted by NefertitiArtakmar Nebetia, at Reply

      that’s your opinion coming from another British person …by the way did you see how much people came to his rally ? compared to Theresa may

    • Posted by Hawbitten, at Reply

      Miss Michelle. True. But it helps that May’s charisma is in negative figures.

  4. Posted by David B, at Reply

    WRONG TYT – you clearly have no idea what nationalisation was like in the UK. You clearly have no idea what British Rail was like… we have a much better service now under privatisation then we had then… its just so long ago that nobody under 30 can remember. Whole industries got nationalised and left to rot without invocation, allowed to crumble without investment! All whist strong unaccountable unions prevented any new technologies which could threaten large unionised workforces. All this meant that UK companies could not compete on a international stage, pricing them out of the markets and allowing them to fail.

    • Posted by Alexander Hendry, at Reply

      Ignore me? Ignore a fact? That PETER HITCHENS of the Mail on Sunday and a conservative believes we should nationalise the railway?

    • Posted by Mnd0vrMnky, at Reply

      “Allowed to crumble” kinda like the NHS and the police force. Hmmm….

    • Posted by ozogozo, at Reply

      Sorry Alex, I meant David B, there were no other replies when I posted

    • Posted by Keith Milner, at Reply

      I’m 50 and I can remember the nationally owned rail services in the UK. And they were a crap-load better then than they are now. I’m not saying they were perfect, but they were affordable, and ran more on time than the current privatised services did.

      The current franchises are mostly crap, unreliable, overcrowded, and expensive. The most noteable exception to this is the ECML franchise when it was run by Directly Operated Railways (aka, the Department of Transport) which had far higher passenger satisfaction levels than any other franchise. Those satisfaction levels went down after the franchise was subsequently awarded to Virgin.

      Privatisation has given us crap railways with minimal investment (despite around £4 Bn of subsidies from the British taxpayers), although they are able to give more than half a billion in “profits” to their shareholders.

      The vast majority of investment in the railways system since privatisation has been publicly funded via National Rail.

      Before privatisation, our railways were hardly “crumbling” (certainly less so than they are now). Remember, the UK used to have an active rail research and development industry, creating the HST and APT (the technology for which was sold off to the Italians who now sell us Pendolino trains), and widespread electrification projects which were largely halted after privatisation, and are now only just starting up again.

    • Posted by Miss Michelle, at Reply

      yeah exactly, there’s only one provider so you have to go with them and thus they can treat you poorly. It’s not like you can wait for another better train to come along.

  5. Posted by The Coffee Nut, at Reply

    TYT liking a guy who said he describes himself as a marxist? Yup, you guys are so lost.

    • Posted by Alexander Hendry, at Reply

      Bannon isn’t a member of the British Conservative Party, genius.

    • Posted by Stardog32, at Reply

      As did Steve Bannon, the ex-investment banker and extreme right-winger…

    • Posted by The Coffee Nut, at Reply

      okay so what’s your point? a conservative and a progressive are both idiots.

    • Posted by Alexander Hendry, at Reply

      My point is that simply calling yourself something doesn’t mean you hold to all the principles of that. Example: Michael Gove called himself a Lenninist to show he was a revolutionary not a boring establishment type who had no new ideas. He DIDN’T say it to show he was Communist.

      Explain to me how he is an idiot for saying that or why is Steve Bannon an idiot for saying it when they are using it to suggest they are revolutionary not status quo.

      You say it because you had no idea that’s what they meant because you are ignorant and you cast aspersions when you have no clue instead of seeking the clue.

    • Posted by The Coffee Nut, at Reply

      wow, wow, wow, I think you’re venting out a lot of things onto me. Not cool.

  6. Posted by Political Ren, at Reply

    You don’t know anything about politics if you compared Bernie to Corbyn

    • Posted by Sage master, at Reply

      Political Ren the fuk bro corbyn and bernie have huge similarities in policy……ect

    • Posted by DefeatGlobalism, at Reply

      Both are insane, expect Corbyn is ever more to the Left.

  7. Posted by Emopidgeonable, at Reply

    All the Corbyn hate is soo cringe worthy(referring to in the comment section). Rural England is soo far to the right plus the right leaning older generations are crushing the rest of us in the U.K.

    I would like to see Corbyn win but if not, bring on another Scottish Independence vote.

    • Posted by Peter Dodd, at Reply

      the top 5%… loads of people, also lets view the national debt after the Tories have been in power… oooo yeah they borrowed more then EVERY labour government.. ever but fiscally much more safe eh?

    • Posted by Emopidgeonable, at Reply

      Mark Broadhurst Yes the increase to 80k will hit a lot of people, but it will benefit far more considering the average wage is roughly 25k

    • Posted by Mark Broadhurst, at Reply

      Emopidgeonable why not 70K or 60K because he is a hypocrite and wants to benefit from a system he can control.
      He isn’t a man of the people he is a self interested troll.

    • Posted by Mark Broadhurst, at Reply

      Peter Dodd after who crashed the economy?
      let’s face it conservatives get the country out of debt labour plunges us back in.

    • Posted by Peter Dodd, at Reply

      yeah whom did tank the economy? the poor and the disabled right?, they got the multi billion bailouts? also lets look at the 2008 crash… please explain why it was a GLOBAL event that affected more then just Britain, also finally please explain why we have a national debt that is at £1.67 tn and more has been “borrowed” then ever before and yet the population still suffers austerity but money can be found to give massive tax breaks to corps?

  8. Posted by IdarkphoenixI, at Reply

    No, Jeremy Corbyn is not the “Bernie Sanders” of Britain. Jeremy Corbyn is literally a self-proclaimed Marxist/Communist.

    “The Corporatists are all against Jeremy Corbyn” Yeah, so is almost the entire nation! He is literally the most hated politician in Britain today

    • Posted by crunchysauce, at Reply

      then why does his labour party hold 30% of the seats? Curious

    • Posted by Jaakko Sivonen, at Reply

      Corbyn wasn’t the Labour leader in the last election. And in the UK political system having 30% of seats gives you zero power.

  9. Posted by Calliope M4, at Reply

    Stop calling Corbyn the UK Sanders. That’s insulting. Sanders is a left of center social democrat. Corbyn is a regressive loon. Labour will be slaughtered in the next election.

    • Posted by chickendinner2012, at Reply

      Corbyn is great, the corporate media is controlled by billionaires that want the destruction of the UK by supporting the Torries.

    • Posted by Urvashi J, at Reply

      love jeremy corbyn

    • Posted by Sam Vimes, at Reply

      Calliope M4 100% correct mate. we all hate corbyn the IRA sympathetic twat!

  10. Posted by Sandals McPickle IV, at Reply

    To all Bernie supports in the US, from a Corbyn supporter in the UK…

    Let Corbyn’s example serve as a warning to those supporting Bernie in the states. Winning the leadership of the democratic party or the labour party is only half the battle. The establishment and corporate media lackeys will go after Bernie twice as hard if we wins the leadership. They did the same with Corbyn, hysterical and probably historical levels of smear jobs, vitriol and political attacks were levelled at him. They’ll do the same to Bernie, be prepared to for that.

    Corbyn’s being attacked all over the media, mostly personal attacks and smear jobs. A lot of his policies are actually quite popular, even among some conservatives. There was an interesting episode of the One Show by the BBC, they went around asking conservatives in Guildford about policies that Corbyn proposes without telling them they were his policies, they all agreed with them up till the point that they realised they were his policies.

    • Posted by some body, at Reply

      Bernie and his policies are popular in the US as polling indicated. Corbyn was never popular at any point.

    • Posted by Andrew Wells, at Reply

      You just made all of that up. The media and the party had nothing to do with it. Labour lost the official opposition in Scotland, lost the EU referendum, lost 7 seats in Wales to Ukip, lost seats in the general assembly and is continuously rated VERY poorly in polls. Lower than both Michael Foot and Donald Trump. This all happened before any front bench resignations in the Labour party.

    • Posted by Johan Mahoney-Berg, at Reply

      +Sandals Mcpickle IV Not sure i can vote for someone who won’t give a straight answer to the question if he will use force to protect the interests of Britain. I want a yes answer not “it depends on the circumstances”

  11. Posted by James Brand, at Reply

    Sorry TYT the reason why the media and most of the working class despise Corbyn is because:

    1) He’s a Communist
    2) He and his buddy John McDonnell are IRA collaborators and apologists
    3) He put in the shadow Home Sec position his former mistress Dianne Abbot who said that 10,000 extra police officers could be hired for £300,000 (£30 per year salary) she then got it wrong twice more and was caught in a lie saying it was her 7th interview when it was actually her 3rd not including the fact that she’s a bigoted racist who also said that on balance Chairman Mao did more harm than good.
    4)He’s not a progressive at all he’s what we call a Champagne Socialist that despises democracy when it gets in the way of his £127,000 p/a Salary and that of his wealthy Union Overlords like Len McCluskey.
    5)The woman who gave them a whitewash report sweeping all the vile Anti Semitism problems in the party under the rug was rewarded with a peerage in the house of Lords.

    I wouldn’t trust the man to boil a frigging egg never mind run the country, if his deputy Tom Watson was leader I’d vote for them but as long as this Communist infestation remains they’ll never get my vote

    • Posted by Paddy R, at Reply

      James Brand, not so. I’ve just done a survey of my living room and we are 100% working class in an Essex council estate, not champagne socialists, more Guinness progressives, and 66.6% of us are voting Corbyn, believing him to be the best and most honest leader the labour party has had in our lifetime. The other 33.3% agrees, it’s just my daughter is too young to vote.
      That said, it’s clear that corporate controlled Britain won’t elect him,, to busy believing Daily Mail bullshit, supported by the corporate friendly Blairites of the PLP.

    • Posted by James Brand, at Reply

      that was a seperate issue as to the racism she sent her kids to a private school because she thought the local black kids were too stupid for her children to mix with edit here https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/nov/05/labour.uk

  12. Posted by R Yokoe, at Reply

    They have no chance of winning. No chance at all. Theresa May will win the House of Commons with a landslide.

    • Posted by reecejam, at Reply

      R Yokoe labour is now predicted to make up seats from the last election and has gained every day since the election was called. the conservatives will probably still win but it won’t be a landslide may wanted

    • Posted by R Yokoe, at Reply

      Really? Based on what evidence? Have you seen the polls?

    • Posted by Andrew Wells, at Reply

      *reecejam* they haven’t gained since the election was called, or at most they’ve gain very modestly. The most recent averaging, out today puts them 17 point behind, this is much worse than last year, a ten point difference is considered a landslide in British politics.

  13. Posted by callum m-v, at Reply

    TYT pls do more UK coverage

    • Posted by chickendinner2012, at Reply

      Andrew thanks for the laugh. Go support your war criminals somewhere else.

  14. Posted by JP455, at Reply

    I’m curious how many people here are historically literate enough to recognize this is Marxist propaganda.

    • Posted by JP455, at Reply

      Communism…

    • Posted by Aurelia Ansah, at Reply

      +JP455
      It doesn’t have to be either/or. A Capitalist country can adopt Socialist policies when it comes to the endeavour of benefiting society; The UK successfully created the National Health Service – NHS – in 1948, & it was a saviour to post 2nd world war ordinary people who otherwise would not have been able to afford medical care. And despite the Conservatives trying to privatise it by the back door, & its problems, it’s still invaluable to people who wouldn’t be able to pay for healthcare. The British Welfare State was created in 1942 to aid the poor & needy. And despite the stigmatisation, the overwhelming cries of receivers being “spongers”, Social Security is still invaluable to the people who need it. Why do these staunch ruddy-faced right-wingers so simplistically see it in such an absolutist way? Rather, common sense dictates that one rejects the awful things about Socialism (made manifest in Communism), & implements the proven successful policies that help the general public, including those on the poverty breadline.

    • Posted by JP455, at Reply

      “The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree,
      all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralise all instruments of production in the hands of the State, i.e., of the proletariat organised as the ruling class; and to increase the total productive forces as rapidly as possible.” Communist Manifesto, Ch. 2.

    • Posted by JP455, at Reply

      Right…so we can just trust government to prudently decide which industries should remain private and which should be nationalized for the ‘public welfare?’ I’m sure the state (in its infinite wisdom) will just stop aggrandizing itself after taking over the energy, postal and railroad industries.

  15. Posted by The Long Blake Road, at Reply

    Murdoch owns a decent chunk of our papers and sky, not surprising that Corbyn is constantly mobbed by bad headlines, like Milliband before him. P.S. Jimmy Dore is painful to spend time listening to.

    • Posted by bob builder, at Reply

      he doesnt own the Guardian

    • Posted by The Long Blake Road, at Reply

      Yeah I immediately regretted typing ‘All’! He does own a decent proportion of them, all of them slam labour.

    • Posted by NelC, at Reply

      Though Trump’s raised the bar on not knowing what they’re doing; Corbyn will have to up his game now if he wants to stay in the running for most incompetent leader of a national party.

  16. Posted by Craig Sinkins, at Reply

    Its great to see you guys talking about whats happening here in the UK and the chance for real change that we have!

    Would be awesome to see some more coverage on topics outside the US!

  17. Posted by PKNHET, at Reply

    Jeremy Corbin is a Communist

    • Posted by John Ewen, at Reply

      He’s a progressive, pro worker, for the many not the few, helping the poorest in society. Stood up to apartheid back in the 70s. Fundamentally decent and not in politics for personal gain.

    • Posted by PKNHET, at Reply

      Jeremy Corbyn hails Fidel Castro as a ‘champion of social justice’

    • Posted by PKNHET, at Reply

      Labour has been infected with Marxist ideology.