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Paxil And Anti-Depressants Causing Death By Suicide

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  1. Posted by The Beige Sheep, at Reply

    antidepressants work differently for different folks. there are a bunch of different ones because they do not all work with everyones body chemistry. when doctors prescribe them they tell patients it may worsen your depression so let them know if their symptoms worsen so they can put you on a different one.

    • Posted by The paradox chemist, at Reply

      The Beige Sheep I couldnt agree more with your comment anti depressants are tricky to get right thats why there is not one “anti depression” molecule

    • Posted by The Beige Sheep, at Reply

      Ballista Pk wow really? whats your proof?

    • Posted by elsa Grace, at Reply

      Ballista Pk tell us about this

  2. Posted by billiam sharpe, at Reply

    hmm suicide a side effect but never homicide… interesting

    • Posted by Y2K, at Reply

      now don’t get any ideas m89
      kappa

  3. Posted by stalag14, at Reply

    Bug juice. Miss a couple of doses and get free head shocks.

    • Posted by TheEmperor9985, at Reply

      Or carefully try to taper off and get free head shocks

    • Posted by yadabub, at Reply

      You don’t even necessarily need to miss a dose for that. Nasty stuff. Anybody else break teeth as a result?

  4. Posted by MrPayneful, at Reply

    of course this comes up right as im about to start paxil for my depression 🙁

    • Posted by Mayor Zeus, at Reply

      Smoke weed fam Better for you, and you wont commit suicide

    • Posted by Redorgreenful, at Reply

      MrPayneful I’ve tried Paxil. It didn’t work for me, but I suggest being in close communication with your therapist no matter the drug you’re taking if you have an inkling of suicidal ideation

    • Posted by Aman Paul, at Reply

      MrPayneful I took it and it worked fine. Just don’t take it for longer than six months because anti depressants alter your brain permanently over time. And be careful about withdrawals to. When you want to stop using it, wean yourself off over the course of a few weeks by taking smaller doses.

  5. Posted by stephan dijk, at Reply

    this is the problem with america the psychologist only give you pills and no therapy
    here in west europe psychiatrists will almost never prescribe drugs because of the severe side effects
    therapy always comes first here

    • Posted by Михаил Савельев, at Reply

      Bulshit, they just give you xanax and real therapy cost tons of money.

    • Posted by Teethgrinder 83, at Reply

      Михаил Савельев who gives you Xanax? Western European psychiatrists? Not in the U.K. at least-Xanax is pretty much unheard of in the U.K

    • Posted by Vincent Feutry, at Reply

      I don’t know where you live, but here in France, ok, psychologists, psychotherapists, will prefer a kind of therapy without drugs, but psychiatrists are hooked on perscriptions, so to speak, especially when they are not specialized in an other field (psychanalysis, hypnotherapy, CCT, etc). Psychiatrist are doctors, physicians, their first tool is prescription drugs, especially when they have big pharma constantly murmuring to their ears.

  6. Posted by Damon Santori, at Reply

    because Dumbass america would rather choke on those pills then to Actually Solve the problem of the individual.. Maybe we should be Charging Big Pharma with mass murder and attempted murder..

    • Posted by Teethgrinder 83, at Reply

      Damon Santori methinks I’ve hit a nerve havn’t I 😉 funny how those with with loudest mouths have the thinnest skin-enjoy a lifetime of wanking into gym socks bud, that’s about your level id say. See no matter how many comments of yours turn up in my email I know that deep down you realise how pathetic you are 😊 bye bye my friend! Hahahaha

  7. Posted by Lynda G, at Reply

    It’s horrible to lie about a product, however I take Paxil to deal with my PTSD and it helps tremendously. I believe Zoloft and Paxil are the main two used for PTSD and Paxil is usually the preferred option. I hate relying on a prescription drug, but when exercise and natural routes don’t make a dent in your suffering, it can be a life saver. I know Paxil was a life saver for me.

    • Posted by freerolll, at Reply

      Weed helped me out!

    • Posted by 卍 MEIN KEK 卐, at Reply

      Lynda Gillam Why would you have PTSD? Were you digging foxholes in Nam or what?

    • Posted by Lynda G, at Reply

      1) MJ triggers anxiety & panic attacks for me. I wish it helped.
      2) You don’t have to be a veteran or suffer from a single event to suffer from PTSD. My PTSD comes from prolonged emotional-psychological trauma.

  8. Posted by Eddie14, at Reply

    5 days on anti-depressant medication is probably not going to have an overwhelming effect on someone’s state of mind.

    • Posted by elsa Grace, at Reply

      It is claimed that anti-depressants take about 6 weeks to “work” however effects happen immediately such as nervousness, insomnia, drowsiness, and other shitty and uncomfortable feelings.

    • Posted by maciejwys96, at Reply

      Eddie14 I agree, when I was put on citalopram 6 months ago the first 1-2 weeks I felt drowsy, anxious and odd in general but after the first month these effects completely subsided

    • Posted by Suzanne Merriman, at Reply

      actually, it can in some instances.

  9. Posted by xXMoonlightQueridaXx, at Reply

    As an active paroxetine user, a person with an undergraduate degree in Pharmacology and a scientist. It seems to me that individuals who have no training in these areas are suddenly experts on the efficacy of drugs OR the process of research. Saying A leads to B, therefore B caused C is a known fallacy which is why post hoc analysis are done because Correlation DOES NOT equal causation. Now, the death of Mr. Dolan is certainly tragic, but in a world where active research is still going on in Depression, we have to be insightful and understand that it wont be perfect, ie drug treatment. Lastly, have you considered what the suicide rates would be without these drugs? Lastly, SSRIs are not only used for depression! There have other indications:ppmd, ptsd, social anxiety, used for neuropathic pain, aids in migrain mitigation. Like…meh whatever. These types of videos where there is surface analysis of an issue is often irritating.

    • Posted by yadabub, at Reply

      Be careful. Here’s my anecdote: After having been prescribed 3 other drugs that didn’t really do anything for me, other than Prozac, which did make me feel better, but caused an episode of serotonin syndrome, I was prescribed Paxil. I’d been on it for a couple of weeks, and was feeling different, but more ill(pain) in ways that would be hard to describe, than better. Suddenly one evening I experienced an extreme craving to commit suicide. It wasn’t that I felt particularly bad, or hopeless, I just really, really, really wanted to kill myself. I had to talk myself out of it, as my mind raced to plan, almost as though it was doing so without my input. It was very difficult to stop. I quit Paxil soon after, and have never experienced this since, nor had it happened to me before that. Sadly, I know what it is to be suicidally depressed, this was _not_ that, it was something else entirely and a very frightening experience.

    • Posted by Jen P. Mitts, at Reply

      yadabub Wellbutrin had that exact same effect on me. I’ve been suicidal, but that episode on Wellbutrin was completely different. Wow. I wonder what it was that caused that in us.

    • Posted by yadabub, at Reply

      Jen P. Mitts
      If you don’t mind me asking, as a fellow MDDer- what is your quality of life? Have you managed to maintain a ‘normal’ level of function overall relative to your ‘peers?’
      TLDR:
      I was depressed all through school, okay(my word for bad but largely functional) for about 15 years after followed by a 6 year slow downward spiral. And then there was approx. a single year of wonderful “now I know what normal feels like” remission, followed by another slow downward spiral up until about 3 years ago when I went from largely dysphoric(along with my depression) to mostly apathetic. Of course, I’ve probably been misdiagnosed, but what do I know? I fight my depression these days only to be answered back with extreme, constant non-focused anxiety. I got tired of the drugs making me weirder than I am anyway(according to friends) even discounting the multitude of side affects. I used to have occasional panic attacks. Now I don’t think I’d even notice one.
      Sorry to dump. It’s rare that I ‘meet’ someone who understands even a little bit what it’s like.

  10. Posted by Anya Kelly, at Reply

    I take Paxil. Anybody eles.

    • Posted by Jeffrey P, at Reply

      Anya Kelly, I have for a few years and it’s helped me a lot!

    • Posted by Salvador Palma, at Reply

      I took it for several years (4 or 5). high dose. I stopped taking it a little over a year ago. It was a nightmare withdrawl. St. John’s Wort saved me. I tried dosing off from Paxil several times, but I couldn’t handle the symptoms. Finally I tried St. John’s Wort tea and it helped a lot. Anyway, the symptoms only stopped completely 9 to 12 months after I stopped taking it.

    • Posted by Anya Kelly, at Reply

      When i forget to take my meds i can barley get out of bed i take 5 different types of pills don’t know if it is because of paxil or one of my other pills.

    • Posted by Jeffrey P, at Reply

      Anya Kelly, maybe address that with your physician, Anya. I only take a couple medications, so am lucky in that regard.

  11. Posted by barbourgirl78, at Reply

    I used to take Paxil/Paroxetine. One of the issues I had with it is it wasn’t really working, but then, when I missed a week of taking it, after having taken it for 7 months, my emotional reaction was so extreme, that there was a clear indication that I had become addicted to it. Once it stopped working for me, my doctor prescribed a higher dose, but, then, it began to make my ankles swell and I would feel sluggish and squirmy. I had to stop taking it, but, I had to ween off over a one month period. But, no matter the dose, I would have extreme mood swings and become really dizzy if I simply missed a day.

    • Posted by Aaron565pwns, at Reply

      Thats because you are a lab rat to the doctors, and now you wont get employment because you are considered handicapped and crazy.

  12. Posted by JDDBeyondTheSky, at Reply

    The major problem with this video is that it ignores why antidepressants increased risk of suicide. Its taught in second year, and possibly first year, psych.

    The simple reason is the lift an antidepressant gives you allows you to take actions to resolve the problems causing depression.

    If the only viable actions to you appear to be death, an antidepressant will ALWAYS increase your risk of suicide.

    This is why it should be used in conjunction with psychotherapy.

    Those labels wouldn’t have solved anything, and the risk will be there regardless of antidepressant.

    The solution is to ensure people have the resources to make meaningful changes in their lives, rather than use suicide as the solution antidepressant induced motivation allows them to do. Most depressed people who contemplate suicide are also too depressed to carry it out.

    • Posted by Frysfan, at Reply

      JDDBeyondTheSky This makes a lot of sense. Christ hospital has a program where if you sign up to see someone about getting medication that you have to see a therapist along with them. Very productive.

  13. Posted by Salvador Palma, at Reply

    I took it for several years (4 or 5). high dose. I stopped taking it a little over a year ago. It was a nightmare withdrawl. I tried dosing off from Paxil several times, but I couldn’t handle the symptoms. Finally I tried St. John’s Wort tea and it helped a lot. Anyway, the symptoms only stopped completely 9 to 12 months after I stopped taking it.

    • Posted by tripp kuhne, at Reply

      “lift an antidepressant gives you allows you to take actions to resolve the problems causing depression”
      Link? That sounds a little unbelievable

    • Posted by Snacman8, at Reply

      FYI, I think you meant to reply to the comment below this one

  14. Posted by Mtn Dew 4 Breakfast, at Reply

    Although I haven’t personally tried paxcil, I had a similar experience with Zoloft. I became completely isolated from society and considered much more than I had previously, I didn’t step a single foot outside my apartment for over 2 months because of paranoia. It took only about 3 months on zoloft to throw my life way out of control, and I’m still trying to recover 3 years later. I was a straight B student at ohio state engineering, I dropped out. I had a job at an insurance company, I went MIA while on the drug and lost the position. Anti depressants can be scary. Be aware of all side effects of these meds.

    • Posted by Jen P. Mitts, at Reply

      Mtn Dew 4 Breakfast
      Were you able to find a better antidepressant?

    • Posted by Mtn Dew 4 Breakfast, at Reply

      No that experience scared me away permanently. Zoloft was already a 3rd try for me. I fumbled with my depression for another year and a half, but eventually I had a large change in my outlook of life, family and money, and am doing much better now.

    • Posted by Aaron565pwns, at Reply

      And now your employment opportunities are limited because you are considered crazy, and they know you are a lab rat to them.

    • Posted by Scott Glendale, at Reply

      +Mtn Dew 4 Breakfast Glad things are better for you!! 🙂

    • Posted by Angel Symmetrika, at Reply

      Aaron565pwns Not true. The ADA specifically forbids that kind of discrimination.

  15. Posted by Karis Simpson, at Reply

    After being on Paxil, I wouldn’t recommend anti-depressants to anyone. It was a shitshow. Teenagers shouldn’t be prescribed pharmaceutical drugs to change brain chemistry…

    • Posted by BlackLabelSlushie, at Reply

      Hi, how was it a shitshow? Can you be specific?

    • Posted by Aaron565pwns, at Reply

      Drugs dont actually make you feel better, and they just keep diagnosing you until they get some results, ruining your life and chance for employment in the process. You are a lab rat to them.

    • Posted by Angel Symmetrika, at Reply

      Karis Simpson I was on paxil until the drug almost killed me. Then I took Effexor XR. That drug was much more tolerable, didn’t make me gain weight, and didn’t make me sleepy. I suppose one’s body chemistry changes with age since I found myself taking progressively less of the drug over a five-year period and haven’t been on psych meds for about 7 years.

      I would take the medicine again if I needed to. But I manage my health with diet, exercise, abstaining from alcohol, having a job I find fulfilling, and having a meaningful spiritual practice.

  16. Posted by Spencer's Painting of the Week, at Reply

    Meanwhile, people with debilitating depression watch things like this and decide not to get any help. Untreated depression is a much higher risk for suicide than any antidepressant.

    • Posted by Aaron565pwns, at Reply

      Wrong. They should absolutely not get help, because there is no help available. All a doctor who sells product can do is ruin your life further, they cant fix your problems for you.

    • Posted by Ungoogleable o_O, at Reply

      I don’t think you can make such generalized statements.

  17. Posted by Ash Ross, at Reply

    Not only do anti-depressants take longer than five days to affect your neurochemistry, meaning the likely cause of the suicide was the previously untreated depression, but anti-depressants commonly have this as a side effect BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING. People with severe depression already have suicidal ideation, and sometimes when taking antidepressants the first thing they get back is the energy to act, the lack of which is a physical symptom of depression. This means they are capable of going through with suicidal intent they already had, not that the pills aren’t working or somehow causing the suicidal intent. ALL antidepressants have this side effect. It should be common knowledge to look out for people when they begin to take antidepressants for signs of “getting well enough to kill yourself” and you had a perfect platform to talk about this, but instead you put this garbage on your channel, futher stigmatize mental health medication (which has SAVE SO MANY PEOPLE’S LIVES, INCLUDING MY OWN) and potentially drive people away from seeking help out of fear!

    This is the most irresponsible journalism I’ve seen from you, TYT. I expect this kind of negligence from Fox.

    • Posted by ozjthomas, at Reply

      I don’t think an internet argument could convince you, but my intention was not to paint the drugs as evil, just that they cause some very real issues. It is an incredibly complex issue that can not be condensed into a simple pro or con argument. I’ve gone through years of medication as well, for depression and schizoaffective disorder and have had many medications make many symptoms better and many that only exacerbated my depression and made me in fact worse. This is due to depression not just being a lack of serotonin, but a complex, multifaceted illness that has many causes, stresses and manifestations.

      My problem is the corruption of big pharma and it is the same problem that is occuring with other medications like oxycodone and opiates.

      I do know what I am in fact talking about, having survived 3 major suicide attempts and been homeless and indigint for the better part of my adult life. The more real we are about the pros and cons, the best we can approach these situations. Sometimes it might mean people be on medication for safety and sometimes it means that other solutions need to be found.

      I don’t completely agree with this article/video, but it’s not a black and white issue.

    • Posted by Ash Ross, at Reply

      This response actually has a lot of sense to it. It’s not a black and white issue, and it’s vitally important for people to figure out what kind of medications they need in order to work for them, 100% true. That we can totally agree on, the intricacies of SSRIs vs SNRIs vs NRIs etc etc, need to be tailored for the individual, and sometimes a faulty diagnosis can be the culprit too (example- putting someone with bipolar disorder on an antidepressant can launch them into a manic episode, very not fun). For me, I know therapy has been about as helpful as the pills have been, and are ideally done together. Antidepressants AREN’T a cure for depression, you’re right there, but the way medication falls short isn’t really what I was talking about or what the video was talking about in this particular instance?

      I’ve had medication that’s made me worse as well (celexa gave me tactile hallucinations and I lost like 10lb in a few weeks because it made me so nauseus, and wellbutrin… well… it wasn’t a pretty picture), but I felt like your initial response was throwing the baby out with the bathwater by focusing on the corruption in big pharma when it’s largly irrelevant to being diagnosed like this. As I said, I’ve never experienced any cover ups when switching up my meds about potential side effects- if anything, it’s been my experience that doctors tend to be reserved in giving out prescriptions, and explain the proccess of raising and lowering a dose as safely as possible.

      Corruption in pharm industries is a very real problem, but everything being discussed in the video re: side effects are both commonly know and in my experience always explained when being prescribed. That’s why I took such great umbrige- because while you do make some very important points, out of context and in the conversation relating to the video it was pretty derail-y and has the potential to scare off a lot of less experienced people with mental illness (or friends/family of mental illness) with misinformation. Dealing with a family that “doesn’t believe in” mental illness or antidepressants can and does kill, especially minors or those who have been abused. I think it should be a priotiry to demystify mental illness in a public setting like this before picking apart the details, which is part of the reason this video is so frustrating.

    • Posted by ozjthomas, at Reply

      It’s a tool. I didn’t mean to come across as either very strongly one way or the other as that is not my stance. I’ve seen both zealous stances- either pro-psych and anti-psych be equally harmful and would never recommend someone stable on meds to “just come off them cause big pharma is evil and all you need is weed (and exercise or whatever)”, which I’ve heard variants of. I have also seen a lot of friends gain tremendous amounts of weight and even some die, probably due to the metabolic issues as well as had my share of increased suicidality and agitation caused by medication, so I am not strongly pro-medication, seeing it more as a tool than anything and certainly a better solution than weed or suicide, but one that has it’s pros and cons.
      Of the outpatient groups I’ve been in, there always seem to be some who seem really helped by drugs, some who find them too problematic (they’re a mixed bag for me, personally)to be helpful and some who find other solutions, like religion, diet, etc. I think part of the problem is that mental illness is so incredibly varied and there is no for-sure way to test for it as symptoms can and do change and it may be possible that some diseases like depression are actually multiple diseases. It’s also the problem that it can lead people to being dogmatic about it- insisting drugs are the answer or vitamins are the answer or whatever(hypoglycemia, trauma,etc).
      It is incredibly frustrating and as a disease there is a lack of empathy about it.

    • Posted by Ash Ross, at Reply

      We can certainly agree on that. Sorry for being kind of a jerk earlier! It definitely sounds like a misunderstanding.

  18. Posted by M SPC, at Reply

    Antidepressants like this one can take weeks to work properly. They begin to help the physical symptoms of depression, like a lack of energy, before they affect mental symptoms like thoughts of suicide.
    This means that there is a period of time when starting treatment when people have the energy required to act on their suicidal ideation. This is well-known in the medical field.
    All this dangerous and irresponsible video does is discourage sick people away from getting the treatment they need.

    • Posted by Yiṣḥāq David, at Reply

      You are right but it over prescribed and people who dont need it can freak out.

    • Posted by Ian Maki, at Reply

      Their energy level improves faster than their mental state…..hence, suicide. That may be the lamest excuse I’ve ever heard.

    • Posted by Lambily4Ever, at Reply

      The point that I got was that the pharmaceutical company was aware of the dangers but tried to keep it a secret from the public to line their pockets.

    • Posted by M SPC, at Reply

      Lambily4Ever, the video does put it that way, but I think it can also give the impression that this and other antidepressants are harmful and ineffective, which is what I see in this comments section.
      If the company did that there’s no reason they shouldn’t face legal repercussions, but I don’t want people feeling that the medication they may need will make them commit suicide, and as a result avoiding treatment or stopping their meds suddenly.

  19. Posted by TheTRUTH, at Reply

    Five days… seems to me he killed himself because the drug didn’t have enough time to work.

  20. Posted by IshtarNike, at Reply

    From what I’ve heard this increased risk of suicide is not actually a “side effect.” The reason suicides increases is because the drugs work. When someone is incredibly depressed they can’t even muster the motivation to get out of bed let alone go through with a suicide attempt. When they start taking medication they start to get more motivation and energy because the drugs are working. Because they are more motivated they may now take suicidal actions that they perhaps felt like doing before but could never go through with. So the issue is not necessarily that the drugs are bad, but that people need to be properly supervised, especially in the early stages of use, so that they can get though the initial danger period and start to feel fully better.

    • Posted by Chrissi, at Reply

      yep I read the elation/euphoria you can get as an effect of the drug probably makes a already suicidal depressed person motivated enough to go through with it. That’s the same with bipolar disorder during a manic episode