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“Pick Up Artist” Sentenced For Gang Rape

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Can you really call yourself an “artist” if you just go around raping people? Maybe “pick up rapist” would be more appropriate. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian, hosts of The Young Turks, break it down. Tell us what you think in the comment section below.

"A California judge has sentenced San Diego “pickup artist” Alex Smith to eight years in prison—the maximum allowable under California law—for the gang rape of a woman in 2013.

“This is not a hard decision at all. In fact, if I could give you more time I would,” San Diego Superior Court Judge Jeffrey Fraser said on Friday, in a ruling that runs counter to a spate of sexual-assault sentences that sparked national outrage for their leniency in 2016.

In June, California Judge Aaron Persky gave former Stanford University swimmer Brock Turner six months in county jail (of which he served only three) for three felony counts of sexually assaulting a woman behind a dumpster on campus. In August, Colorado District Court Judge Patrick Butler ruled that Austin Wilkerson, convicted of sexually assaulting a half-conscious woman, would serve zero of the 12 possible years in state prison allowable for his crime. Instead, that judge opted for two years of “work-release,” a program that allows Wilkerson to work or go to school during the day and report to the county jail at night. And Montana Judge John McKeon gave a 40-year-old man who pleaded guilty to repeatedly raping his 12-year-old daughter just two months in county jail.

In stark contrast to these rulings, Judge Fraser told Smith, “In order to protect society, you need to be put away,” calling him “an absolute danger to women in this community.”

At the time of the rape, Smith, 27, was acting as an instructor for a company called Efficient PIckup which promised to teach clients a “rejection-proof” technique for sleeping with women only minutes after meeting them. The rape convictions are thought to be the first for members of the pickup community—an underground subculture of men who congregate in the online space known as the manosphere, where they obsessively study and document their interactions with women. Three men were charged with the woman’s rape, but Smith’s case was the only one to go to trial. He was convicted in September by a 12-person jury of two counts of rape: of an intoxicated person and an unconscious person.”*

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92 comments

  1. Posted by JO 93, at Reply

    well let’s hope he drops the soap :)

    • Posted by Genesis Stewart, at Reply

      JO 93 two wrongs don’t make a right

    • Posted by oO PPH Oo, at Reply

      +Jonathan Xavier I don’t have a strict moral problem in punishing murder
      with murder. After all, if you hold someone captive in a cellar, we throw
      you in prison. Thus, the argument “don’t punish people *with* their crime
      but *for* their crime” doesn’t really work.

      The reason I’m against the death penalty is because we end up killing too
      many innocents.

      I also find that many of those who wish to punish murder with murder and
      especially rape with rape do it, not out of a desire to use punishment as
      proactive deterrent, but out of a hunger for sadistic vengeance. Vengeance
      shouldn’t be the purpose of our justice system.

    • Posted by jai “Honeydipped” brown, at Reply

      JO 93 I hope they take if he drops it or not and gang rape him then make
      him a maytag

    • Posted by edi, at Reply

      +Black Fang
      Doublethink exists!

  2. Posted by Samuel Barnes, at Reply

    Why is Ana in her pajamas? :P

    • Posted by Walter, at Reply

      +Arie Fraiser still less bad than skinny jeans…

    • Posted by Chad, Don, at Reply

      Walter Only on men. Nothing wrong with skinny jeans on women.

    • Posted by Walter, at Reply

      +Chad, Don of course haha

    • Posted by circa blonk, at Reply

      because she was late for work after a long night of fun….

    • Posted by floex831, at Reply

      Exactly what I was thinking!

  3. Posted by Shining Star, at Reply

    Here come the trolls ready to defend the tag team rapists.

    • Posted by LordSignur, at Reply

      nor that they forced her to drink…

    • Posted by Joel James, at Reply

      @shining Star: where they at? Your comment seems to be shouting at the
      wind. No one’s defending these guys.

    • Posted by 14Schofield, at Reply

      +Joel James

      The comments section disagrees with you.

    • Posted by CogniVision, at Reply

      +sheepthing That’s what people do. They go to bars and clubs to get drunk
      so they can lower their inhibitions and have fun. Whether the girl was
      unconscious before or after they had sex wasn’t stated. If they had sex
      with her while she was unconscious, then that’s rape.

      You feminists love to paint women as the weak gender that for some reason
      are incapable of taking responsibility for themselves. No one ever makes
      that complaint towards men who are drunk and have sex.

    • Posted by Drogan, at Reply

      boooooooooooooooring

  4. Posted by Highland Chicken, at Reply

    Damn, I was hoping Roosh V was arrested.

    • Posted by alibarooshni, at Reply

      Maybe someday. There was one chick that did claim he sexually assaulted her.

    • Posted by Melissa Angelik, at Reply

      Actually on his blog he admitted to date raping a girl in Eastern Europe, I
      think it was in Ukraine.

    • Posted by alibarooshni, at Reply

      +Melissa Angelik
      Iceland too.

    • Posted by Phlebas, at Reply

      Yeah. Gotta say, that was the first thing that came to my mind too. As
      +Melissa Angelik said, he admitted to date raping someone already.

      Oh well. It may not be RooshV, but I really hope this sends a message to
      the PUA community.

    • Posted by René Bane, at Reply

      He is a con artist who says these things publicly to get free advertising
      for his books and events, which makes him money. Given his preoccupation
      with the subject of rape, he probably has some experience with it, but he’s
      saying it aloud in hopes you will help him with his business. He is a nasty
      entity.

  5. Posted by Mending Wall, at Reply

    8 years? You can get more time for drugs.

    • Posted by Pavlo Tesla, at Reply

      Mending Wall So you’re saying I should rape instead of vape?

  6. Posted by Manc26, at Reply

    Those pick up artists tips are for the awkward guys/male trump supporters
    too socially awkward to get women the real way

    • Posted by Sierra Jones, at Reply

      The only women who fall for the Trump supporter’ brand of guy are either
      insecure, naive, Trump supporting or unconscious women.

    • Posted by Sierra Jones, at Reply

      Joey you are an idiot who surely visits PUA websites for advise. I can
      already tell you will never have a healthy relationship with a woman. Your
      mind is too polluted with ignorant ideas.

    • Posted by Brandon Mcgu1re, at Reply

      Manc26 lol coming from a manc, do they even have internet in Manchester?

    • Posted by Brandon Mcgu1re, at Reply

      Sierra Jones trump supporter brand of guy lmao do u even know what you’re
      saying?

    • Posted by Jarrett Pierce, at Reply

      Manc26 I was thinking more spineless liberals

  7. Posted by King Kaiden, at Reply

    8 years max for a gang rape? I feel like that should be the minimum…

    • Posted by Martha Holt, at Reply

      +MIKE VON BACH I think it’s time for your afternoon nap 🙂

    • Posted by Martha Holt, at Reply

      +Irving Ceron (Rant incoming) … I love how conservatives in this country
      are the first to insist that the free market should run unfettered by
      government regulations, people should be allowed to own guns with no
      background checks, ‘We the People yada-yada’..yet when it comes to soft
      drugs like weed and hash, SORRY…no rights for you…in fact we’ll stick
      you in prison and throw away the key. The same can be said for my rights to
      control my own body as a woman. F*ck them.

    • Posted by Martha Holt, at Reply

      Glad I got that off my chest 🙂

  8. Posted by Dumdumdumdum Dum, at Reply

    Pathetic these kind of men are.

    • Posted by R0b0mammal, at Reply

      +YuraMayZing Sure, they “legally” confessed, but that was probably because
      they were intimidated into singing a plea deal like MANY other Americans.
      The “news” that TYT has given you only offers one side of the story, and
      you only know of and identify with that one side.

    • Posted by darkmantlestudios, at Reply

      R0b0mammal

      2 confessed, and 1 was convicted. one went through the justice system, and
      was found guilty.

      they are guilty.

    • Posted by General White, at Reply

      Nice avatar pic.

    • Posted by R0b0mammal, at Reply

      +YuraMayZing Evidence ≠ truth. Anyone can fabricate a story and present
      handpicked, misinterpreted “evidence” in order to corroborate their claim.
      Tyt has given you the federal PROSECUTOR’s version of the events that
      played out, not the defendant’s. What Tyt didn’t emphasize is that federal
      prosecutors have WAY too much power in the justice system, and it’s their
      JOB (money/raises/reputation) to convince the jury and the public that the
      defendant is wrong, and they’re perfectly willing to bend the truth in
      order to achieve that. Close to 97% of federal cases end in a plea bargain
      with prosecutors, wake-up people, this is not a free & fair society.

    • Posted by YuraMayZing, at Reply

      R0b0mammal What does that have to do with THIS case. Have there been false
      accusations yes. I also AGREE that evidence does not always mean its true.
      Just look at how many are falsely accused of crimes they did not commit. In
      this case, the evidence aligns with the facts of what actually happened in
      this case, or at least the evidence that was presented seems consistent,
      therefore its reasonable to prosecute and charge them.

  9. Posted by Niggachu, at Reply

    the comment section is so peaceful let’s just imagine if that guy had a
    name like “muhammad” there would’ve been a war, people cussing islam left
    to right even though it had nothing to do with it.

    • Posted by Spartacus of Thrace, at Reply

      Evil One
      Not enough attacks on MRAs in my opinion.
      I was a PUA for a bit. I stopped because it was sleezy. The PUA I followed
      always condoned consent. Never sexual touching until she was clearly
      interested in you.
      Alex Smith is less of a PUA in my mind and more of a Rapist Trainer.
      Ive never come across an MRA that admitted a rape of a woman was a rape…
      they are scum.

    • Posted by Evil One, at Reply

      +Spartacus of Thrace Pick-up is to do with seduction, which is being
      sexually persuasive. Rape is the opposite of that, it is using force. And I
      very much doubt you have met any MRAs, particularly as many of them are
      women. Some are concerned with false allegations of rape, as we all should
      be. It is easy to generalise about any group and always misleading.

    • Posted by Mike Müller, at Reply

      People would start quoting Quran verses pertaining to women, and saying
      “SEE THIS IS WHAT MADE HIM DO IT. ISLAM IS CANCER”. While all religions are
      cancer, the rape would actually have no connection to Islam or Muslims.
      However, try to convinct the bigots at that point that correlation doesn’t
      imply causation. They see it as 100% fact, because the points look
      connected.

  10. Posted by Lord Luke Lightbringer, at Reply

    Alt-Right Trolls: But…but…but at least he’s not a sjw feminist cuck.
    Me: I know he’s far worst he’s now a convicted rapist.

    • Posted by Mathijs S., at Reply

      +MRostendway 1 did I say it was?
      2 it is quite possible that more right wingers do that stuff because beta
      males are more likely to be left. not ONLY but MORE

    • Posted by Mathijs S., at Reply

      +MRostendway i speciffically responeded you you saying guys who pikc up
      girls to point out thats not what this was about 😉

    • Posted by MRostendway, at Reply

      +Mathijs S. That is what this is about.

      OP tried to make a link between pick up artists and alt righters.
      Im calling b.s on that since there is literally nothing in this story that
      connects the two groups.

  11. Posted by Hal Jordan, at Reply

    Trump will probably pardon him and give him a cabinet position.

    • Posted by numkie, at Reply

      Hal Jordan Hillary would defend him and claim the girl seeks out older men
      and wanted it.

    • Posted by G Robinson, at Reply

      you know…… lawyers do that

    • Posted by 04mzwach, at Reply

      Hal Jordan Every story is about trump and you must insert him still? Come
      on man..

    • Posted by Misael Cifuentes, at Reply

      +Islam is cancer you do know that EVERYONE is entitled to a lawyer under US
      laws right?

    • Posted by chrichtonsworld, at Reply

      04mzwach But it’s a valid point isn’t it? Every Trump supporter had no
      issues with Trumps mentality towards women. A lot of people feel entitled
      and justified to do many aprehensible things because Trump himself is
      guilty of them. Not saying that it’s the cause in this case but would not
      be surprised that in future people would get away with rape because of this
      warped mentality.

  12. Posted by A54321, at Reply

    Should’ve been longer than 8 years. Absolutely despicable.

    • Posted by Imma roast you *, at Reply

      Someone forgot what was a jail’s true purpose, rehabilitation.

    • Posted by Harmony Alexandria, at Reply

      +Zipping Pear At the very least, government needs to keep the general
      public safe from criminal scum, even ancient/primitive societies were
      capable of that. 100s of years worth of correctional institution data
      proves that while petty criminals, such as thieves, can be rehabilitated,
      the track record of violent criminals proves that they need to be locked up
      and forgotten as they tend to be repeat offenders.

    • Posted by Imma roast you *, at Reply

      +Brian W bend over

  13. Posted by Walt Thomas, at Reply

    A white guy? Actually going to prison for rape? This story has got to be
    fake.

    • Posted by Tyson Phillips, at Reply

      +Walt Thomas. Do you mean he’s going to jail to get raped or for raping
      someone. Something tells me either could be true

    • Posted by Crazy Scholar, at Reply

      76% is an insane amount, were is your source?

    • Posted by Bob Stone, at Reply

      Walt Thomas Stop feeling sorry for yourself money gets you out of criminal
      trouble in 2016 not race

    • Posted by Michael Tap, at Reply

      Did you not listen.8 is the max.

    • Posted by Thomas Fisher, at Reply

      Walt Thomas haha is your middle name fisher? my name is Thomas Walt fisher
      lol when I read that I was like, right on man glorious name ya got there
      haha

  14. Posted by Alex Wilson, at Reply

    I frequently hear misogynists deny that police often fail to investigate
    either adequately or at all. These are the same fucks who will do their
    best to find a reason to victim-blame this poor woman.

    • Posted by Spartacus of Thrace, at Reply

      meeg_2005
      I would bet money if you aren’t a virgin you have been rapey towards women.

    • Posted by NoNameTheFirst, at Reply

      +G Robinson I hope you’re not talking about me. Regardless, I don’t see any
      statement from anyone in this thread that is in support of rape. If you
      disagree, could you quote the statement?

    • Posted by NoNameTheFirst, at Reply

      +Edel K I disagree. Drunkenness isn’t a single state. Being drunk can range
      from being tipsy to passing out. Perhaps in an ideal world, people would
      never have sex when drinking, but that is not the reality we live in. I
      think one, you have a responsibility to yourself to take care of your body
      and not put it in harm’s way. This, of course, means you have a
      responsibility to yourself not to take 5 shots of tequila when you’re at a
      bar, in an unfamiliar area, 20 miles from where you live by yourself. You
      obviously have the choice to do this, but I think most people would
      consider that irresponsible. That being said, just because someone is
      “super drunk” doesn’t mean it’s morally acceptable to take advantage of him
      or her. When it comes to legality, I’m not sure. Maybe we should have a
      gradation or a fixed point. Just because someone is drunk, doesn’t mean
      they are incapable of making their own decisions and to an extent should be
      held accountable for the decision made. If you’re a bit drunk and someone
      asks you to have sex and you say yes, then I wouldn’t consider it rape. If
      you are visibly stumbling, barely able to get a word out, about to pass out
      and someone asks you for sex, and after 5 times asking, you’re able to
      mumble out “ok”, then I’d consider that rape.

  15. Posted by Reb H, at Reply

    Ana looks like she’s wearing pyjamas

    • Posted by Evil One, at Reply

      +rahowhero X I was being charitable to a Yank.

    • Posted by rahowhero X, at Reply

      +Evil One fair play then. (I suspected as much… ignorant bloody seppos)

    • Posted by Islam is cancer, at Reply

      Ana looks like she missed the Armenian genocide.

    • Posted by Kraye Inluv, at Reply

      Reb H lol, i was thinking the same thing

    • Posted by Sierra Jones, at Reply

      i thought the same thing, haha!

  16. Posted by The Laughing Man, at Reply

    lets see how those pick up skills work for him in jail

    • Posted by nickmeistersa, at Reply

      I’m pretty sure roles will be reversed.

    • Posted by David Bridges, at Reply

      The Laughing Man He better be quick about picking up the soap. That’s for
      damn sure.

  17. Posted by Grace Onto You, at Reply

    Pick up artists are complete psychopaths. They enjoy deceiving and
    manipulating people. Their views on sex relate to dominating others. There
    is a point where seduction goes too far and just becomes manipulation.

    • Posted by merciless, at Reply

      are we talking about woman or men here seriously????

    • Posted by circa blonk, at Reply

      seduction is a form of manipulation. Pick up artists are wrong for their
      physical methods; however, the act of manipulating a woman into sex isn’t
      new or immoral. Your whole life you focus on looking your hest and making
      money to convince/manipulate a woman who otherwise wants nothing to do with
      you, into sex. You’re thinkinh of “manipulate” as predatory, when in fact,
      take the connotation out of it, and manipulating a situation is just a
      witty way of getting what you want. When it is done at the expense of
      others, that’s when it becomes predatorial.

    • Posted by Genesis Stewart, at Reply

      Grace Onto You you do know that consenting adults can enjoy domination,
      just because you don’t find it appealing didn’t mean the rest of the world
      doesn’t, hence the massive BDSM and fetish lifestyle community. that said
      what they did was rape pure and simple.

    • Posted by trader nick, at Reply

      +circa blonk If you spend your life keeping in shape and making money to
      attract a partner where is the manipulation? How are you falsifying
      attraction? The things they want you actually have.

    • Posted by circa blonk, at Reply

      +trader nick because it’s still a method of convincing, just one being
      through materialistic things, and one being through a social display of
      charisma and charm.

  18. Posted by Dwight Schrute, at Reply

    These scumbags deserve more time in prison so they can properly experience
    what they did to that unfortunate girl

    • Posted by José Guzman, at Reply

      Dwight Schrute you’re the same type of person who’s against the death
      penalty.

    • Posted by Music, at Reply

      Genesis Stewart They can.

    • Posted by Music, at Reply

      José Guzman Meaning what?

      The death penalty allows for potential killing of innocent people, it turns
      state employees into murderers, and it’s not cost effective its more
      expensive.

  19. Posted by Kira Stephens, at Reply

    I hate how easy it is to get away with rape

    • Posted by Kira Stephens, at Reply

      +Cthulhu Christ It varies state to state, and either way yeah these
      situations can be hard to prove

    • Posted by Kira Stephens, at Reply

      +Doomed Goyim how so?

    • Posted by Kate Libby, at Reply

      I’m going to sit back now and watch that massive can of worms I just
      opened. =D