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Most Republican voters think that higher education misbehaves for the nation. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian, the hosts of The Young Turks, tell you why. Inform us exactly what you assume in the comment area listed below.

" Republican politicians progressively claim universities have unfavorable influence on UNITED STATE

Republicans and also Democrats offer starkly various analyses of the influence of numerous of the nation's leading establishments– including the information media, colleges and universities and also churches and religious organizations– and also sometimes, the space in these views is dramatically larger today compared to it was simply a year ago.

While a majority of the public (55%) continues to say that schools have a favorable result en route points are going in the nation nowadays, Republicans reveal significantly adverse sights.

A majority of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents (58%) currently say that institution of higher learnings have an adverse effect on the nation, up from 45% in 2015. By comparison, a lot of Democrats and also Democratic leaners (72%) say institution of higher learnings have a favorable effect, which is bit altered from recent years."

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  1. Posted by MilitantAntiTheist, at Reply

    Yup, because college is controlled by the fictional mass movement called “the S-Jews” who are teaching cultural Marxism and post-modernism, and they’re turning kids gay and feminizing men and masculinizing women by naming them manly names such as “Tomi Lauren.”

    • Posted by IizUname, at Reply

      Storm Bey Dave Rubin is a clever propagandist that pretends to be unbiased while actually being libertarian. He’ll have liberals on so he can find flaws in their argument, but when he has nut-job right-wingers on he won’t point out flaws in their arguments. It’s a political interview channel funded by patreons and a libertarian think tank.

    • Posted by IizUname, at Reply

      MilitantAntiTheist I personally don’t think he was even brainwashed, I literally think it was all an act. Like that time he interviewed that one uncle Tom that denied police killing unarmed minorities was an issue. David said “but, but, I’m a liberal and I’m gay so I want to empathize with the perspective of the black community.” Seriously, who would mention their political identity in such an awkward manner before making a statement about empathy?

    • Posted by Brett Strong, at Reply

      MilitantAntiTheist Ok I guess we should unpack this a bit. 1. I’m not even subscribed to Dave Rubin so I’m not sure where the big Dave Rubin rant came from.

      2. SJW just means someone is a radical leftist i mean really its just used to describe a particular ideology/personality trait, how is it a conspiracy?

      3. If you deny that SJWs exist then how do describe: antifa, Miziou, the university of toronto, evergreen collage, anyone who writes for the guardian/huffpost, the mainstream media constantly pandering to the far right for ratings, the continued defense of Islam by the left against all reason, and the million other stories I don’t have time to list?

      4. I don’t know why you brought up the Orlando shooting and yes they were killed because they were gay, the shooter was muslims and islam says to kill gays whats not to get.

      5. And I think this is the biggest one, you said I was buying into Breitbart propaganda but I don’t even read Breitbart because get this I. AM. A. LIBERAL. the left is completely poisoned by the far left and I just want it back. If you actually watched a sargon video in your life instead of imminently discounting him based on what you hear from your fellow (SJWs) then you might be able to see this. Dave Rubin became what he became because he left the TYT echo chamber and started listening to other points of view, I don’t personally watch his show but I find it admirable that he has as many guests on as possible.

      Look I’ve been nothing but respectful here, I haven’t called you a fuckhead or anything all I ask is that you be a little less zealous and be a little more open minded.

    • Posted by Brett Strong, at Reply

      Ex0dus So what you’re saying is we have tangible examples of higher education promoting marxism and cause trouble, then you have a guy who is in higher education saything that thats what the system is like and you think this is all an unreasonable unsubstantiated alt-right conspiracy. If you don’t see the problem
      it’s because you’re ignoring the problem and btw every single one of the “skeptics”(they hardly ever use the term) are liberal.

  2. Posted by Roro Yo, at Reply

    knuckle dragging mouthbreathing retardagains

    • Posted by Jim is the man, at Reply

      @Hillbot Tear Dispenser – Because the Republicans are the party of the greedy. No surprise.

    • Posted by Hillbot Tear Dispenser, at Reply

      @James skorpio
      We’re talking about average Republicans, not rich Republicans.

      Not our problem that you libtards aren’t successful with a better education. That’s your problem.

    • Posted by djaceman123, at Reply

      +Hillbot Tear Dispenser “But muh sociology degree! The patriarchy just doesn’t want to hire women! They need to give me muh entitlements! How else will I survive working at McDonald’s?”

      -Feminists after leaving college and experiencing the real world

    • Posted by takethegate, at Reply

      Or makes women have accurate information for sexual reproduction. What woman would want to pro-create with a moron?

  3. Posted by RandomRobin, at Reply

    It’s common knowledge that idiots hate knowledge.

    • Posted by Aaron Wantuck, at Reply

      +Luke pearson

      *”John Johnson Jr. that’s a false equivalency, my friend. Just because the major metropolitan areas are a big part of the economy, it doesn’t mean that it’s because democrats are in charge. By the way, how’s detroit going?”*

      It is NOT a false equivalency. It shows the differences between predominantly red areas vs blue areas. He also said nothing about who is in charge politically there but rather in how the citizens sway politically.

      Detroit my friend is an example of factories and menial labor jobs, aka the automotive industry moving out of an area becasue they can do it cheaper and better someone where else. It also shows that the people who lost those jobs refused to retool themselves and sat and blamed their problems on others like you are doing.

      I do not hear you mention anything about LA when all the factories shut down or moved out becasue of smog EPA issues. It now houses Hollywood a multi trillion dollar industry, Facebook, Google, Newegg, LinkedIn and many other high tech industries. In fact Amazon has 2 data centers there.

      What about New York City? Home to the financial industrial center of the world and anyone is anyone has their corporate headquarters there.

      California a blue state is the 6th largest economy of the world, pays for 45% of the federal budget itself, for $1 they put in they take back .70 compared to South Carolina which takes back $7.87 for every $1.

      Insult the blue all you want, but the red would go bankrupt without the Blue which innovates and brings in the money.

    • Posted by David Todd, at Reply

      18Darkside That’s not true anymore. Now, you can mark gender-neutral on the application. Ridiculous!!

    • Posted by Sergy486, at Reply

      Who really cares if you can mark gender neutral? For most jobs, gender doesn’t really matter. Don’t worry so much what other people do if it doesn’t really affect you.

    • Posted by danny valentin, at Reply

      RandomRobin A fool doesn’t know the difference between knowledge and wisdom I see alot of fools coming out college

  4. Posted by jerrypackard, at Reply

    intelligence runs contradictory to Republican ideas

    • Posted by Dribrom Sunrock, at Reply

      gatesbrown26 No that’s not what they are saying. How in the hell did you manage to form that opinion? Well I guess you did not you’re just playing stupid to troll as every alt-right troll on the internet.

    • Posted by Christopher Davis, at Reply

      right! all colleges do is churn out things like free thinking, diversity, tolerance and women with opinions

    • Posted by takethegate, at Reply

      Or makes women have accurate information for sexual reproduction. What woman would want to pro-create with a moron?

  5. Posted by Greg Dobson, at Reply

    TYT misrepresenting and simplifying the issues as usual. It’s worthless degrees that we look down upon, Gender Studies, Sociology, “Art History”, English Literature etc. Those are completely useless in the job market and it’s stupid to pay for them.

    • Posted by Joseph Inhiding, at Reply

      +Justin, Before I begin let me say that my concern about what’s happening is more along the lines of the burdens an individual might incur with regards of a false promise of what an education means; by that I mean a financial burden.

      The New York Fed tracks the delinquency rate for different types of loans. As of the first quarter of 2017, total student loan debt (1.3Trillion) was increasing the most and had the highest delinquency rate among loan types, about 11% ( other types would be car, mortgage etc.)
      I will argue that these trends are unsustainable. The higher education system seems to be suffering from both economic and cultural issues, but these two types of problems often cause each other in a feedback loop. The ultimate cause for both of them is political.

       I’ll summarize a table by the Mises Institute, respondents on whether a particular degree was worthwhile: Chemistry and Natural Sciences 87% Computer Sciences, Math and Stats, Business & Finance, Management, Engineering, Modern Languages, Literature, Physics and Life Sciences, Law (70%-80%) Media, Marketing and Communications, History, Geography, Politics, Fine Arts and Design (54%) Psychology (33%).

      And which programs are the most likely to pay off for the student? The
      top five highest paying bachelor’s degrees include: petroleum
      engineering, actuarial mathematics, nuclear engineering, chemical
      engineering and electronics and communications engineering, while
      the top five lowest paying bachelor’s degrees are: animal science,
      social work, child development and psychology, theological and
      ministerial studies, and human development, family studies, and related services. Petroleum engineering has an average starting salary of $93,500 while animal science has an average starting salary of $32,700.
      This breaks down for a monthly salary for the petroleum engineer of
      $7,761.67 versus a person working in animal science with a monthly
      salary of $2,725. Based on the average monthly payment mentioned above, this would equate to a burden of 4.2 percent of monthly income
      (petroleum engineer) versus a burden of 12 percent of monthly income
      (animal science) .. before taxes.
      The root of the problem is intervention by the federal government in
      providing student loans. Since 1965 when President Johnson signed the Higher Education Act tuition, room, and board has increased from $1,105 per year to $18,943 in 2014–2015.
      This is an increase of 1,714 percent in 50 years. In addition, the
      Higher Education Act of 1965 created loans which are made by private
      institutions yet guaranteed by the federal government and capped at 6.8 percent.
      In case of default on the loans, the federal government — that is, the
      taxpayers — pick up the tab in order for these lenders to recover 95
      cents on every dollar lent. Loaning these funds at below market interest
      rates and with the federal government backing up these risky loans has
      led to massive malinvestment as the percentage of high-school graduates enrolled in some form of higher education has increased from 10 percent before World War II to 70 percent by the 1990s.
       Getting a four-year degree in nearly any academic field seemed to be the way in which to enter or remain in the middle class.But just as with the housing bubble, keeping interest below market levels while increasing the money supply in terms of loans — while having the taxpayer on the hook for a majority of these same loans — leads to an avalanche of defaults and is a recipe for disaster.
      Using the example of plumbing, the average plumber earns $53,820 per year with the employer paying the apprentice a wage and training.
      Acknowledging the fact that this average salary is for master plumbers, it still equates to a $20,000 salary difference between it and someone with a four-year degree in animal science while having no student loans as a bonus. Outside of earning a four-year degree in science, technology, engineering, math or, accounting with an average
      starting salary of $53,300, nursing with an average starting salary of $53,624, or as a family practice doctor on the lower end of physician pay of $161,000, society might be better served if parents and educators would stop using the canard that a four-year degree is always worth the cost outside of a few majors mentioned above. Encouraging students to consider the trades and parents to give their children the money they would spend on a four-year college degree to put a down payment on a house might be a better use of finite economic resources.
      Ok, you can probably tell I copied this stuff from someplace else. I hope you’re not offended because it really would have taken me a long time to write that up on my own. However, I hope you can see the essentials of the argument that I gave in my first post.

       Basically, that there is a cost to all this and someone is going to have to foot the bill. That’s most likely to be the taxpayer. Now I don’t know how you feel about taxes and the gov’t dipping into everyone’s pockets for whatever they dream up. However, I can assure you that not everyone likes the idea. Especially the disappearing middle class. Especially the “Deplorables”.

  6. Posted by Jay reyes, at Reply

    Republicans don’t like smart people because smart people usually don’t vote republican

    • Posted by Dav Vivar, at Reply

      Jay reyes people from the ghetto vote democrat explain that

    • Posted by Leivve, at Reply

      I don’t see how being poor means you’re less intelligent.

    • Posted by drew rettke, at Reply

      Jay reyes name smart people who voted left

    • Posted by Ali G, at Reply

      Jay reyes gets shut down in the comments! lol

  7. Posted by Torontopia, at Reply

    Let’s face it, people who are not smart enough to get into university, are going to think it’s useless or even a bad thing. Of course, it’s just ridiculous! If you don’t have a university education with at least a master’s degree, you are SCREWED!

    • Posted by God Almighty, at Reply

      Torontopia A bachelor’s in engineering is doing pretty well for me. Maybe if you picked a harder major, you wouldn’t be forced into grad school

  8. Posted by elmateo77, at Reply

    I’m a liberal and I have a very high opinion of churches. Their chicken is delicious. 😛

    • Posted by Colleywoodstudios, at Reply

      POPEYES FOR LIFE!!!

    • Posted by Hugh Mungus, at Reply

      KFC chicken is butt kickin!

    • Posted by Nez, at Reply

      Yall have obviously never had Honey Kettle but okay.

  9. Posted by KendrixTermina, at Reply

    knowledge is the best vaccine against bullshit so go figure

    • Posted by Marcos Moreno, at Reply

      KendrixTermina tru

    • Posted by grandpoopy1, at Reply

      to kendrix: where do you obtain knowledge? From left-liberals who have a political axe to grind? I trust real conservatives, not fake conservatives.

    • Posted by djaceman123, at Reply

      +KendrixTermina Then avoid college like the plague, because there is little knowledge to be gained from college these days.

  10. Posted by mako zero, at Reply

    educated people are harder to govern as bunch of idiots who believe that angels are real.

  11. Posted by AJ Beamish, at Reply

    Irony: Title of the video “Republicans: College Is Ruining America”

    Meanwhile the uneducated conservitard summer vacation trolls show up spewing their parent’s idiocy and prove the title wrong.

    What would happen if these brats read an actual book during the summer instead of playing CoD and trying to piss off liberals to impress their low-brow parents and friends?

    • Posted by H, at Reply

      Then we likely wouldn’t be lagging behind Europe and Australia in industries we used to dominate, but then the people who have turned those sectors into their own private fiefdoms would actually have to compete for their positions and that’s just inconceivable.

  12. Posted by Hal Jordan, at Reply

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    • Posted by dancinkindofguy, at Reply

      Look at the TYT video caption, where the whole idea of what the video is about is framed and forms the entire perception of what the reader sees:

      “Republicans: College Is Ruining America” anyone reading that would think that they are saying that Republicans think COLLEGE ie – Higher Education is ‘ruining America”.

      Now, look at what the actual Pew results statement says:
      “A majority of Republicans and Republican leaning independents have a negative effect on the country”

      Those are TWO vastly different things.

      Thats as dishonest as saying that because Dems and Liberals have a massively negative view of President Donald Trump, that they have a massively negative view of the Presidency.

      What those Republican and Republican leaning independents are saying is they have a negative view of the way colleges and univerities are being handled by their overwhelmingly leftist authoritarian admins and faculties.

    • Posted by MinesAGuinness, at Reply

      Strangely enough, the question doesn’t ask about or offer corollary evidence relating to an ‘overwhelming leftist authoritarian admins and faculties’. It just asks if colleges are useful to the nation. Perhaps respondents should stop adding their own preconceived inferences to their survey answers and just read the question, and commentators should stop using those same answers to neutral surveys to confirm their own preconceptions of colleges.

    • Posted by djaceman123, at Reply

      +MinesAGuinness The questions provides no context. I’m not a conservative or liberal and if you had asked me that question, I would’ve been tempted to say modern colleges are detrimental because of the brainwashing.

      If you had asked me “*Can* colleges be a benefit to society?” I’d have said “yes” without hesitation.

    • Posted by Smaakjeks K, at Reply

      +djaceman
      1: define brainwashing.
      2: demonstrate that colleges and universities conduct this on a systemic level.
      3: demonstrate that this conduct affects society to a net detriment when weighed against the benefits of higher education.

  13. Posted by Labyrinth9000, at Reply

    Those idiots…I guess Doctors, Lawyers, Scientists, Future Business leaders, Experienced Politicians and Teachers don’t matter anymore in this country.

    • Posted by djaceman123, at Reply

      +Labyrinth9000 The professions you’ve just mentioned are a different breed, and are not what people think of when you ask a general question about college. People on the right are obviously going to think of the brainwashed rioters and Antifa, etc. when you mention colleges in the 21st century. Whether you believe that’s fair or not, that’s what happens when you ask such a general question. Clearly you’ve bought into the agenda here and are using it as confirmation bias that all Republicans or conservatives must be stupid for giving that as their answer. Does that not make YOU as ignorant as you think they are?

  14. Posted by Fiona Kotziampasi, at Reply

    Here in Europe there are so many mechanisms in place to ensure that as many people as possible get as high an education as possible and free universities in most countries to boot. We seem to be doing OK!!!!

    • Posted by Smaakjeks K, at Reply

      +dancing
      “which means those schools are all dumbed down for people who arent really smary enough to be in college.”
      It would be nice if you didn’t make stuff up. Also, there’s a difference between these two statements:
      1) Anyone can be a great mind.
      2) A great mind can come from anywhere.

      Learn the difference.

    • Posted by Lemmiwinks, at Reply

      +dancingkindofguy Being able to afford going to college doesn’t mean you can go and graduate if you aren’t smart enough.

    • Posted by Lemmiwinks, at Reply

      inb4 some moron comments about how Europe has “fallen”

  15. Posted by Frost Organa, at Reply

    “I love the poorly educated.” – Donald Trump

    • Posted by Jayden Parks, at Reply

      Frost Organa yeah killary does not trump

  16. Posted by The Guy, at Reply

    I think George Orwell’s quote from 1984 “War is peace, Freedom is Slavery,and Ignorance is Strength.” describes the GOP party right now.

    • Posted by Barkley Henson, at Reply

      Yeah like “Religion of Peace” and “40 billion genders”.

    • Posted by strawberriesncandii, at Reply

      Elia Kazan warned America of the same thing years ago.

  17. Posted by Undesirable Number One, at Reply

    Republicans are the majority of white America. This hatred of education is not new. Why do you think white slave masters always made sure African American slaves would never be allowed to read and write? Education expands the mind. Same logic is being applied here. The more educated an individual is, the less likely he or she will willingly be suppressed. The game has changed but the rules and players are the same.

    • Posted by torinju, at Reply

      Speaking as an old guy, the hatred of education by Republicans IS new. It used to be education was one of the ways that they felt superior to the masses. At one point, conservatives were not all wacky (though the wacky fringe existed, they were exactly that, the fringe). There is a need for people in government that say, well, we simply cannot afford it, even if it is desirable.

      But somewhere along the way the conservatives went batshit insane. Instead of saying we cannot afford to help every poor person, as much as we would like to, they now say poor people are just lazy and don’t deserve our help.

  18. Posted by b 88, at Reply

    Less education = more republican supporters

    • Posted by Rex Wort, at Reply

      In a nutshell

  19. Posted by ke kek, at Reply

    Total misread of numbers. They have a negative opinion due to the safe spacers, trigger warnings, and intolerance of differing opinions that are propagating around our colleges. The speakers that get protested and denied free speech in institutions that are meant to be about challenging ideas. Colleges today are no longer accepting of ideas, they have changed to be inclusive only towards certain ideas, people and speakers.

    • Posted by Nate Morey, at Reply

      not really because its overall so they think safe spaces outweigh higher education? clowns.

    • Posted by livefire666, at Reply

      Heisenberg-SchrodingerEmc2 And psychology as a bullshit field is dominated by libtards and communist. Libertarians and the New Right are by far the smartest and most informed people in America!

    • Posted by Sergy486, at Reply

      livefire666 For the smartest and the most informed people in America, you are awfully ignorant. While I admit that psychology does have its fair share of bullshit (like all other fields), it is also the reason we don’t simply lock up the mentally ill or, worse, lobotomize them. We have come a long way towards actually helping the mentally unwell become productive citizens instead of treating them as if they are just a burden to society. Of course, it wouldn’t surprise me if you would rather we just abandon people who need help. But keep in mind that it costs a lot more money to lock them up rather than giving them help, if having an economic incentive helps.

    • Posted by Russell, at Reply

      ke kek Gimme a break. The right wing’s war on facts and science is well documented. The right hates the news media, it hates “liberal professors”, and it hates science. The poll question was pretty clear.