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  1. Posted by GunQuickie, at Reply

    Would a background check had stopped this guy from obtaining a gun? NOPE. He would have passed a background check, he had no criminal history.

    • Posted by John Sanchez, at Reply

      It stops innocent people from obtaining firearms, Monk.

    • Posted by Robert W. Johnson, at Reply

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    • Posted by Hugo B. Gonzalez, at Reply

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      They are being controlled and manipulated, it is not their fault, hate is taught. Turn off the TV. You’ll be OK. My guess is most get their News and Information on the world from Fox, but CNN when it comes to wars and foreign interventions they both agree on that. Which is about the only thing they ever agree on. WHY is that?

  2. Posted by Joe Scirrotto, at Reply

    you know what’s weird, even when this guy is talking sense, I still hate him. anyone else?

    also, can we just make it so teachers are properly trained in firearms and certified teachers can keep a gun hidden in their desk, that way in the event of any form of incident, teachers can do more than just hide in the corner and hope for the best?

    • Posted by TH3 M0NK, at Reply

      +Joe Scirrotto And what if all teachers decide to say no to becoming certified?

    • Posted by Joe Scirrotto, at Reply

      TH3 M0NK then none of them have to. but now you have to realize that the opposite gun views are being forced on teachers, any teacher who wants to have a gun on school grounds to protect their students cannot do that without breaking the law. It should be the teacher’s choice. if you don’t want a gun, don’t get one, but they need to recognize that they could be leaving their students defenseless. If you want a gun on the grounds, apply and get certified, but be responsible with it

    • Posted by TH3 M0NK, at Reply

      +Joe Scirrotto But your proposition only works if teachers are even interested in carrying guns in class. And, no doubt there will be too few to make an entire school safe.

      It just seems like a sad state of affairs when solutions being discussed after events like this are: introducing guns into schools.

      This idea gets thrown around a lot, but does anyone take a moment to think what’s actually being proposed?

      “Put guns in schools” just that sentence alone sounds insane.

      Besides, this guy didn’t carry out this shooting because it was in a gun-free zone. He went to the school his wife worked in to kill her and himself, it just so happened that he also killed a random 8 year old.

    • Posted by Joe Scirrotto, at Reply

      +TH3 M0NK
      1. Even if few teachers do want to bring in guns, the option is still there for anyone that does
      2. It may not guard a whole school, but if it could have even protected half of the students that died last year, then it’s worth it. I just graduated high school last year, so i know what im saying, every month or so we would practice for any sort of intruder by locking the door, turning out the lights, and sitting in the corner. But in reality, that wouldn’t stop anyone, we would have to have hoped that they were caught or dead before they reached us.

      3. What’s so insane about wanting another line of defense to dtand between students and a threat?

      4. Even if these laws wouldn’t stop *this* shooting, think about how many others could have ended quick if teachers that were closer to the scene were able to end the threat

    • Posted by TH3 M0NK, at Reply

      +Joe Scirrotto 1. That’s based on the idea that teachers would even want to. Perhaps if the teachers don’t want to, maybe we should arm the children? Maybe if the 8 year old had a gun?

      2. But what if it didn’t protect half the students that died last year? What if the number of deaths actually increased? Introducing more guns just increases the odds.

      3. What’s insane is: introducing guns into schools. Is that what the US has come to?

      4. What a teacher with a gun against an intruder with a gun introduces is: bullets flying in all directions. Only in a perfect world would the teacher-intruder gunfight be over in seconds. Dozens could be killed by stray bullets before one or both are dead.

      Take this event for example, if the teacher also pulled out a gun, not only would the 2 boys behind her have been shot but the kids behind him may also have been shot, and perhaps those in the class next door or across the hall, etc.

      Introducing guns into schools is a lose-lose situation. A better solution would be to make the school impenetrable during school hours. Bullet-resistant glass and steel doors is far safer than guns.

      The US should have a referendum instead of allowing the NRA to influence decisions.

  3. Posted by Luna vampire, at Reply

    What it’s gonna take for both party and the government to take the necessary action to make this country safe and fair? Why is it taking so long?

    • Posted by Hugo B. Gonzalez, at Reply

      Of course there are regulations, some States stricter than others. Don’t pull the trigger on anything you do no want to kill. NRA teaches Safety and Shooting Skills. He does not mention that.

    • Posted by Hugo B. Gonzalez, at Reply

      Luna vampire – What would make you feeler safer?

    • Posted by G Washington, at Reply

      Luna vampire that’s right. Mandatory gun ownership for all citizens. That’ll cut down on crime!

    • Posted by Luna vampire, at Reply

      Thank you for telling me, what NRA stand for and what it does. From the news we hear and see, these people aren’t really learning how to use a gun safely and at an appropriate time. I don’t know, what make me feel safe, I just want people to peacefully with very little danger happing. Any ideas?

    • Posted by Luna vampire, at Reply

      I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not. But, how do you supposed we fix this?

  4. Posted by Jimmy Greer, at Reply

    I’m a gun owner. But I’m not a hypocritical gun nut. I don’t understand why there’s an age restriction on pistols but not assault weapons. Gotta be 21 to own a pistol so why not 30 years old to buy an AR15? And we already restrict a certain population’s ability to own guns (felons) so why can’t we restrict those who need certain medications to control their mental problems?

    I also don’t believe in high capacity magazines. If you need more than 10 shots to protect yourself or to go hunting….then you need more time at the gun range. That’s why the magazines for my gun are 5-7 rounds (8 or 9 with aftermarket). Would also like to see gun classes become a mandatory thing like a drivers education is mandatory.

    • Posted by whyamimrpink78, at Reply

      Jimmy, look up the VA Tech shooting. Look at the magazine sizes and guns he used. He killed around 30 people. Those gun laws you are pushing for do not work.

  5. Posted by mud cat, at Reply

    Hasan sucks

    • Posted by captain bigballs, at Reply

      +mud cat. Your comment sucks.

    • Posted by Curtis Smale, at Reply

      When I see Hasan, I click dislike immediately. This fake baller is just so annoying to see/hear. TYT needs to stick him on his own useless channel.

    • Posted by Curtis Smale, at Reply

      Lol, really? That’s all you got captain bigballs?

  6. Posted by Sackeshi Productions, at Reply

    We have more murders than CA, UK, EU, JP, SK and ,AU combined all of then have gun bans or strict regulations. #BanGunsSaveLives

    • Posted by cheeseman20202, at Reply

      Sackeshi Productions look at what a tavor is that’s legal in canada

    • Posted by Saber Cave, at Reply

      California has some of the strongest gun laws in the nation and it also has universal background checks which McLovin on steroids is arguing for so tell me again how gun laws worked? I’ll wait

    • Posted by HashtagASK, at Reply

      UK population is 65 million whereas US 320 million. US has over 30,000 active gangs. Huge black market and human trafficking rings operate there. Major of gun violence is suicides. Banning guns won’t stop your extremely high suicide rates. Then after suicides it’s self defences. Do you want people no to be able to defend themselves. When adjusted per capita US is similar to UK in actual violent crime. There are still thousands of gun crimes in London alone.

    • Posted by G Washington, at Reply

      Sackeshi Productions get rid of stats related to inner city blacks and the U.S. goes to bottom of list for gun crimes. Maybe inner city feral blacks are the problem.

    • Posted by Sackeshi Productions, at Reply

      G Washington in every other country there is no difference in crimes rate between ethnicities

  7. Posted by Dan B, at Reply

    Look at Australia
    Shows how gun laws work right

    • Posted by Dan B, at Reply

      Tyrion L Last time I checked that’s what they use to mow down kids

    • Posted by cheeseman20202, at Reply

      Dan B read the NFA GCA AND the Hughes amendment automatic weapons are heavily regulated and a take couple months to years to obtain know the country’s gun laws before saying anything about guns by the way there are only 250,000 legal machine guns in the US

    • Posted by cheeseman20202, at Reply

      Dan B also they used semi autos

    • Posted by Tyrion L, at Reply

      Dan B are you stupid? they use “ar-15” the SEMI automatic version version of the gun you are thinking of, SEMI only means one shot. not multiple. do some research moron.

    • Posted by Tyrion L, at Reply

      Dan B people like you can’t even argue right because you don’t even know what you are talking about.

  8. Posted by Eric Ling, at Reply

    The argument against gun regulation is basically: we shouldn’t outlaw murder because criminals don’t obey the law anyways.

    • Posted by Kevin Montrond, at Reply

      Its their argument in a nut shell. We should just let criminals do whatever they want.

  9. Posted by InvisbleMario, at Reply

    The US is controlled by Fear mongers who enrich themselves on wars as long as you allow this.The Wars and death cycle will never end.

    • Posted by G Washington, at Reply

      InvisbleMario not as long as 37 million blacks are in this country. Turns out, they commit crime out of ALL proportion to their numbers in our society.

  10. Posted by beeyah805, at Reply

    California already has background checks in place for all gun purchases. There is no way the man could have walked in to ANY establishment or gun show and walked out with a firearm. Funny how they didn’t mention that the shooter had previous felonies related to weapons charges and domestic abuse. Background checks won’t solve private, illegal sales any more than copyright laws stop the sale of bootleg DVDs.

    • Posted by vegeta ss, at Reply

      What about the surrounding states?

    • Posted by beeyah805, at Reply

      +vegeta ss First off, sweet name. I mean that without any sarcasm. Respect. Secondly, he would need Nevada or Arizona ID to purchase in those respective states. Oregon, Nevada, and Arizona all have background check requirements in place already, so he wouldn’t be able to purchase from a store or show.

  11. Posted by TheHardRunner, at Reply

    When I hand down my grandfather’s shotgun to my 25 year old son I should be required to do a background check on him? Now that’s just stupid.

    • Posted by Lynx Savage, at Reply

      A single bullet from a rifle can pass through two people. So the rifle thing does not come off any better than a shotgun. Depending on the shot in the shotgun it wouldn’t pass through. There is also home defense vs out of home defense. Too many people watch movies. They think a single gun shot stops a perp or tosses them twenty feet back. That is not how bullets work.

      For example more people have been killed by a 22 than any other caliber. But a 22, unless it hits a vital organ is a bullet that will kill you… tomorrow. Meaning it is not this magic round that immediately stops a threat. It doesn’t. Same with a 9mm. A shot from a 9mm is not incapacitating without great placement. The movies has people thinking ignorantly. If you don’t know what an actual gun can do, no way should you be suggesting laws without the basic knowledge of what people are calling to have prohibited.

      I can’t stand conservatives or liberals. Both sides can be insane extremists.

      Liberals want to completely disarm us, conservatives want us to keep our own nukes in case brown people come. Neither looks at the reality of the situation. Sorry liberals we don’t live in this great world where criminals don’t exist and cops are perfect. Sorry conservatives, you have more to fear from your own children, you don’t need a nuke. Home defense weapons and self defense weapons.. A OK with me personally, as a licensed gun owner.

    • Posted by CommanderM117, at Reply

      how do you know your son might snap one day and soot up a place some mental illness go undiagnosed for years the best thing that could be done by a parent is having a check up with your doctors before giving him a gun and the usual checks by gun store to

    • Posted by TheHardRunner, at Reply

      Highly unlikely “what if” scenario, straw man. Don’t make laws based on far fetched what if non-sense.

    • Posted by Kim Jong-un, at Reply

      these clowns forget that America protects most of these nations with strict gun control…so they don’t actually ever need guns to defend from government tyranny…

      then again in some European countries a man can be sent to prison because his gun got stolen and was used by a criminal to kill somebody…

      their brains are fucked

  12. Posted by Ryungun Rie, at Reply

    I was in the army and I served a tour of duty in Iraq as part of the multinational forces along with American soldiers. Assault rifles should NOT be available for civilian use. It is insane that in the US of A, they can be readily purchased with next to no regulations.

    • Posted by Kim Jong-un, at Reply

      ur such liar

    • Posted by Done Lostme, at Reply

      Kim – go fail another missile test!

  13. Posted by A54321, at Reply

    Just say you want guns banned. California has some of the toughest gun laws in the country. The next step is banning them.

    • Posted by A54321, at Reply

      John Myers So who is referring too then?? Black Market dealers??

    • Posted by John Myers, at Reply

      A54321, gun shows for one, many gun sites also have no problem selling a gun in parts but only as a set to bypass background checks. people should also sell their own firearms through a dealer to prevent selling to a person may not be legal to buy one through a dealer. not hard and cost the buyer 25 to 40 dollars depending on the dealer.

    • Posted by A54321, at Reply

      John Myers In California background checks are required for any selling of guns, including gun shows. So that point is also mute. The same is true in 10 other states, including Illinois which also has high amounts of gun violence

  14. Posted by cozmikcastaway, at Reply

    #1 State with the strictest gun laws….California

    • Posted by cozmikcastaway, at Reply

      @R Well i wasn’t sure of the legality in California, state by state and all, but they are legal in other states, that was kind of my point. But again, if a CRIMINAl is gonna get an AR, what’s to keep him from altering it or having high capacity mags? nothing much really.

    • Posted by Example !, at Reply

      cozmikcastaway what’s gonna stop a criminal from making a bomb out of a pressure cooker or driving a truck through a crowded sidewalk. I must concede you and spree have a greater knowledge of guns than most that argue against them.

    • Posted by cozmikcastaway, at Reply

      @ R That was really my point with my original post…California has the toughest gun laws in the country and yet they still have gun-related crimes, mass shootings..etc. The only way to stop gun violence would be to outlaw guns entirely to the general public and even then I think people would find a way to have them even illegally. As to your comment about bombs and such, where there’s a will, there’s a way, if someone wants to harm someone they will find a way…Oklahoma city, Boston and London are just a few examples of bombs and vehicles used to cause mass fatalities, there’s just no real way right now to stop someone who is determined to cause harm.

    • Posted by John Sanchez, at Reply

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  15. Posted by Eric Cartman, at Reply

    @dumb asses claiming that California has background checks.

    It doesn’t really matter when you can goto the state next door and get a gun without a background check.

    It needs to be country wide.

    Why are people even against gun control? Its so barbaric.

    • Posted by Stu Bur, at Reply

      Canada’s level of gun control is actually not much different than in the US. There is paperwork and restriction on certain types of firearms in the US as well as Canada. Some of the rifle restrictions are actually more lax in Canada in some ways. So if there is any difference in the level of gun violence perhaps it has nothing to do with the laws at all. Which would mean we should focus on the social aspects of problems rather than just make more laws.

    • Posted by Eric Cartman, at Reply

      +Spree Gaming ill believe when I see it. I do lots of metal working and anything in hundred dollar range is a straight up scam. Wouldn’t trust those kits 1 bit.

    • Posted by Eric Cartman, at Reply

      +Spree Gaming not to mention these kits are sold by criminals lol.

    • Posted by Tommy Gunz, II, at Reply

      Buying a gun out of state is illegal

  16. Posted by Jen White, at Reply

    Very easy Especially when my State Rep gives away Ar-15s at his fundraisers

  17. Posted by Alex Bryant, at Reply

    Guns don’t kill people, people kill people!

    • Posted by Patrick Mut, at Reply

      It is amazing to read some of your comment regarding guns. The fact that you are finding pleasure shooting for sport or not, in a hated argument one is bound to be hurt.

      YES GUNS ARE USED FOR SELF DEFENCE, however guns manufacture want to maximise their profits. Meaning the will exploit your fear to self even more weapon to people that do need it… GUN, Knife etc. can kill however you have more chance of surviving with a knife and many other than a gun.

      Question for my americans friend online do you feel safe with gun and does the damager of gun crosses your mind? (Knowing it doesn’t matter many times you take the shooting practice and safe handling of gun when the gun goes off nobody is save even the shooter)

    • Posted by freedombase, at Reply

      Americans will never be slaves to you Nazi gun grabbers
      Americans crushed the rapist pedophile red coat gun grabbers then laughed in the king of englands face

    • Posted by Alex Bryant, at Reply

      freedombase – When did the redcoats take the guns? That’s false history. The revolution was entirely about taxes.

    • Posted by John Sanchez, at Reply

      Taxes on guns.

  18. Posted by Kim Jong-un, at Reply

    come on tyt more strict guide lines to purchasing a fire arm won’t reduce gun violence ….

    • Posted by pat bird, at Reply

      Kim Jong-un im pro gun but why not alow less retards to carry guns. People that carry should be required to go through a training program and rigorous background checks.

      I dont mind being inconvenienced awhile longer as long as it means less morons and crazys get guns. Imo it shouldnt be easier getting a gun then getting your license. For driving you need to pass two test but with a firearm(depending where you live) You can get it next day. We dont know if some crazy motherfucker is off his meds and can get a gun

    • Posted by freedombase, at Reply

      terrorist rapist dictators like kim Bun Hole back Nazi gun control

  19. Posted by Lexyvil, at Reply

    I believe owning a gun raises the tendency for those who get easily mad to use it on others. The term “trigger-happy” exists for a reason.

    • Posted by freedombase, at Reply

      Says the Servant only Nazis/Racist and Anti Semites back gun control

    • Posted by Eric Cartman, at Reply

      TIL every first world country is racist and anti semitic.

      btw usa is savage country, basically 3rd world except for a few developed locations (usually always tend to be in blue states too).

    • Posted by Ozelot, at Reply

      Is that why the Clintons keep armed bodyguards around them 24/7? If guns make everyone less safe like they claim they should lead by example.

  20. Posted by Blazed and Confused, at Reply

    You’re an idiot Hasan Wanker.
    Fix mental health care = fix gun violence.

    • Posted by Badass Atheist, at Reply

      A false equivalence. The “primary purpose” of a car is transportation, while for a gun is actually “to cause fatality”

    • Posted by freedombase, at Reply

      this is America not north korea if you want gun control then move to north korea run by a Rapist Big Government thug

    • Posted by captain bigballs, at Reply

      +freedombase. You sound like you need a background check, dumbass.

    • Posted by 105Raptor, at Reply

      Badass Atheist I agree with your idea (gun owner here myself), I just don’t see how that solves anything. There’s already background checks in place when you buy from an FFL (private sale really needs to be fixed, I believe California already requires, most states do not however), you’re asked on the form you fill out when purchasing a gun pretty much all of that anyway, lying is a felony. What would the disqualifiers in medical history be? Depression? Suicidal thoughts? Anxiety? The way I see it, if I wanted a gun, and knew going to the doctor for psychological issues would bar me from purchasing a gun, I simply wouldn’t go to the doctor.

      Again, I agree that if there were a way to figure all of this out or figure out who will commit a mass murder (or any murder for that matter) and who won’t, and keep the people who will from getting guns, I’d be all for it. But that’s impossible. The only real solution here is to ban all guns, period, but that will not happen. More gun laws which only equate to hurdles and red tape like California has just hurts legitimate, law abiding gun owners and hobbyists unfortunately.